Kaskara Cross-guards—a second essay for comment by Ed Hunley

fernando · 20th August 2018, 06:25 PM

Say, Ian ...

Doesn't this work qualify for a sticky in the Ethno Classic threads ?

Ian · 21st August 2018, 01:51 AM

Hi Fernando:

Yes, I think it probably does--along with Ed's earlier post on kaskara silver hilts.

I have now added this thread and Ed's earlier one to the Classic Threads List.

Ian.

Martin Lubojacky · 21st August 2018, 12:12 PM

An old painting from the museum in Addis Ababa (cca 17th century)

Edster · 21st August 2018, 03:35 PM

Thanks for your observation/image, Martin. You're correct that there may be a substantial link between the Funj and Ethiopia and other nearby Christian states and the origin of the kaskara. There were a few Christian kingdoms remaining near Ethiopia after the Funj defeated the main one (can't recall its name just now) with capital near present day Khartoum.

I found this thread after the Essay has gone to press. Discussion on this subject herein.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...Kaskara+blades

Also Kubur presented this 1845 image in that same thread. Others have been shown previously by others.

Regards,
Ed

midelburgo · 22nd August 2018, 05:34 PM

From the Ethyopian.

Through the Mamluk swords.

We will finish in Byzantium.

Edster · 23rd August 2018, 01:21 PM

Midelburgo.

Thanks for your comment. You could well be proven correct. Still need more research on the technical transition/evolution of how the quillon is attached to the blade and tang.

Regards,
Ed

Edster · 21st September 2018, 04:20 PM

In the body of this essay I mentioned an article on Ali Dinar swords by Julia Anderson, et al of the British Museum. I highly recommend it on this interesting subject. That article is now available of the EAA Geographical Index as below:

J. Anderson, A. Ali Mohaned, et al, “Royal Regalia: a sword of the last Sultan of Darfur, Ali Dinar” Sudan and Nubia, The Sudan Archaeological Research Society, Bulletin No. 20, 2016 (Available from EAAGI or via this link: http://www.vikingsword.com/ethsword/...rson_et_al.pdf

Best,
Ed

21st August 2018, 01:51 AM	#2
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,399	Hi Fernando: Yes, I think it probably does--along with Ed's earlier post on kaskara silver hilts. I have now added this thread and Ed's earlier one to the Classic Threads List. Ian. Last edited by Ian; 21st August 2018 at 03:55 AM. Reason: Comment about Classic Threads List

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Martin Lubojacky Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 843	An old painting from the museum in Addis Ababa (cca 17th century) Attached Images

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Edster Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 415	Thanks for your observation/image, Martin. You're correct that there may be a substantial link between the Funj and Ethiopia and other nearby Christian states and the origin of the kaskara. There were a few Christian kingdoms remaining near Ethiopia after the Funj defeated the main one (can't recall its name just now) with capital near present day Khartoum. I found this thread after the Essay has gone to press. Discussion on this subject herein. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...Kaskara+blades Also Kubur presented this 1845 image in that same thread. Others have been shown previously by others. Regards, Ed Attached Images

22nd August 2018, 05:34 PM	#5
midelburgo Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 264	From the Ethyopian. Through the Mamluk swords. We will finish in Byzantium. Attached Images

20th August 2018, 06:25 PM	#1
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Say, Ian ... Doesn't this work qualify for a sticky in the Ethno Classic threads ?

23rd August 2018, 01:21 PM	#6
Edster Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 415	Midelburgo. Thanks for your comment. You could well be proven correct. Still need more research on the technical transition/evolution of how the quillon is attached to the blade and tang. Regards, Ed

21st September 2018, 04:20 PM	#7
Edster Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 415	In the body of this essay I mentioned an article on Ali Dinar swords by Julia Anderson, et al of the British Museum. I highly recommend it on this interesting subject. That article is now available of the EAA Geographical Index as below: J. Anderson, A. Ali Mohaned, et al, “Royal Regalia: a sword of the last Sultan of Darfur, Ali Dinar” Sudan and Nubia, The Sudan Archaeological Research Society, Bulletin No. 20, 2016 (Available from EAAGI or via this link: http://www.vikingsword.com/ethsword/...rson_et_al.pdf Best, Ed