Gorgeous Shamshir with... bad feeling

M.carter · 5th April 2006, 11:41 PM

Sorry Ariel, I did not notice the Jambiya. That dagger seems like it has been completely refittied with a new hilt, and sheath. If you look closely, the pommel on the hilt has some strange patina, which doesnt look normal on pure silver. The wood-to-silver fit on the hilt doesnt look "right", if you understand what I mean. As for the wootz, I think it looks normal, if you look at some Persian wootz, it looks blue. Some Indian wootz blades look black. I do not know of any scientific details on this. Someone else may help.

Valjhun · 6th April 2006, 07:28 AM

I agree what Carter says. The sword looks gorgeus, I've noticed it before but got too expensive for me... The jambija has a beautifull blade but newly made fittings, I thought it firs time I saw it.

Yannis · 6th April 2006, 08:16 PM

Ariel, I agree with your feelings. IMO the scabbards are both new and the blades are old. There are still excelent silversmiths in Middle East and if the money is good...
I believe that the knife was a try to push in international market stuff direct from Damascus. They remount a lot of blades there. Not always bad.

Battara · 6th April 2006, 09:47 PM

I did notice the jamhbiya and the silver work (if it is silver - in some pictures looks more like white brass) is not of the same quality of what is typical for the time frame of the blade. The reason you see the burn is that it has been soft soldered with lead and this is the only way it can be done if you place the fittings on and not dismantle the hilt. The fittings are much later.

5th April 2006, 11:41 PM	#1
M.carter Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 176	Sorry Ariel, I did not notice the Jambiya. That dagger seems like it has been completely refittied with a new hilt, and sheath. If you look closely, the pommel on the hilt has some strange patina, which doesnt look normal on pure silver. The wood-to-silver fit on the hilt doesnt look "right", if you understand what I mean. As for the wootz, I think it looks normal, if you look at some Persian wootz, it looks blue. Some Indian wootz blades look black. I do not know of any scientific details on this. Someone else may help.

6th April 2006, 07:28 AM	#2
Valjhun Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 692	I agree what Carter says. The sword looks gorgeus, I've noticed it before but got too expensive for me... The jambija has a beautifull blade but newly made fittings, I thought it firs time I saw it.

6th April 2006, 08:16 PM	#3
Yannis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Athens Greece Posts: 479	Ariel, I agree with your feelings. IMO the scabbards are both new and the blades are old. There are still excelent silversmiths in Middle East and if the money is good... I believe that the knife was a try to push in international market stuff direct from Damascus. They remount a lot of blades there. Not always bad.

6th April 2006, 09:47 PM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	I did notice the jamhbiya and the silver work (if it is silver - in some pictures looks more like white brass) is not of the same quality of what is typical for the time frame of the blade. The reason you see the burn is that it has been soft soldered with lead and this is the only way it can be done if you place the fittings on and not dismantle the hilt. The fittings are much later.