ANOTHER JAZAIL

[Richard G]

Hello,
There are a couple of anomalies I can see in this lock.
1, A lock dated 1799 should have a swan-necked cock rather than ring-necked. The EIC did use ring-necked flat locks, but on pistols rather than long arms. The ring-necked cock they brought in for long arms in about 1813 was a rounded cock.
2, It would be very unusual not to see an inspection mark under the pan.
3, The upper arm of the spring that powers the frizzen or steel should extend backwards well beyond the screw securing the lower arm of the spring. In this lock I wonder if the spring is broken because it looks almost too short to bear on the frizzen when it is brought down.
Regards
Richard

[rickystl]

Originally Posted by Richard G

Hello,
There are a couple of anomalies I can see in this lock.
1, A lock dated 1799 should have a swan-necked cock rather than ring-necked. The EIC did use ring-necked flat locks, but on pistols rather than long arms. The ring-necked cock they brought in for long arms in about 1813 was a rounded cock.
2, It would be very unusual not to see an inspection mark under the pan.
3, The upper arm of the spring that powers the frizzen or steel should extend backwards well beyond the screw securing the lower arm of the spring. In this lock I wonder if the spring is broken because it looks almost too short to bear on the frizzen when it is brought down.
Regards
Richard

Hi Richard

Thanks for your comments. You are correct in all three of your notes above. I noticed the incorrect, flat hammer before I bid. The rest I couldn't determine from the Auction photos. But I knew enough to tell the lock plate was authentic, and not a locally made copy.
I'll take the lock off and let it soak. Then check it out and see whats all wrong, worn, or missing. LOL Fortunately, in my case, I probably have enough original spare parts to make the lock working and correct. Even a couple of complete EIC locks that are correct to the period.
It appears to have hsd at some point some lock parts replaced with whatever was lying around at the moment. But this does not really surprise me with these Jazails. LOL But one way or the other, I'll get this lock correct.
But for me, the big attraction was that fluted barrel.
Thanks again for your comments.

Rick

[Pukka Bundook]

Hi Rick,

I like this one!
As you say above, it is very nice to get the Persian/Omani barrel!
We do not see many of these on jezails or toradors, odd one, but that's it.
It (The barrel) looks well worn, and has had a lot of use, but it is still a grand specimen.
As for lock with replacement parts;
This is to be expected when we think of where it came from and the conditions it 'lived' under. Brass may be later, I don't know, but the decoration to me appeals more than tons of mother-of -pearl!

Are you going to revive and fire it? ...I think I would.....

[AJ1356]

Very nice, interestingly I had added this to my favorites list but forgot the auction day. the furniture and everything looks original, awesome find.

[rickystl]

Originally Posted by AJ1356

Very nice, interestingly I had added this to my favorites list but forgot the auction day. the furniture and everything looks original, awesome find.

Thanks for your comments. And.....thank you for not bidding against me. LOL
I've also done that before. I plan to bid, and then forget the day of the auction.
But I always get over it when I think of the money I saved. LOL

Rick

[BANDOOK]

LOVELY DESIGN ON THIS JEZAIL,WELL DONE
CONGRATS

[Richard G]

Hello Rick,
I wonder if you have had the lock off yet? The reason I ask is I am wondering if this was originally a matchlock barrel and whether there is any evidence of the pan etc. having been removed?
Best wishes
Richard

[rickystl]

Originally Posted by Pukka Bundook

Hi Rick,

I like this one!
As you say above, it is very nice to get the Persian/Omani barrel!
We do not see many of these on jezails or toradors, odd one, but that's it.
It (The barrel) looks well worn, and has had a lot of use, but it is still a grand specimen.
As for lock with replacement parts;
This is to be expected when we think of where it came from and the conditions it 'lived' under. Brass may be later, I don't know, but the decoration to me appeals more than tons of mother-of -pearl!

Are you going to revive and fire it? ...I think I would.....

Hi Richard

Thanks for your comments. Yes, this one's seen a lot of use. I haven't had the barrel off yet, but I'm sure it's pre-1800. Considering all the usage, I'm surprised the stock is in such good condition. As mentioned, I'll get the lock corrected in due course.
No, won't make a shooter out of this one. Already have another for shooting. This one's a bit plainer, and was completely restored including a new .54 caliber rifled barrel liner inside the original barrel.

Rick