eBay MORO KRIS WOOTZ??

Double Edge · 21st January 2005, 06:35 PM

Gene,

I'm not aware of any patents Al might have on wootz. Others have made it besides Al and Rick. I believe Larry Harley claims to have made wootz, although I have not seen any. Rick does make a small ceramic crucible into which he adds iron and his "secret recipe of 11 herbs and spices". He showed me a small blade, about 6" long, just over an inch wide, and almost 5/32 thick that he has made to replicate (to some extent anyway) an antique middle eastern knife. His color and patterning were a bit subtle, but remember I'm more used to pattern welded damascus with a good deal of contrast. Rick also had heat treated this blade and it showed a hamon. I found that odd, but did not have the time to get more details on it. Either this one or another had some interesting patterning, a variation of a ladder I believe. I found the wootz interesting enought that I'm itching to make something with it.

Yes, my wife is quite a shot. She may not be the Texas NRA Bullseye champ, but still I wouldn't want to be on the other end of her sights.

Competition? Go for it!

David

Double Edge · 23rd January 2005, 05:25 PM

Gene and Others,

In this discussion on wootz I mentioned Ric Furrer's wootz. At this link

http://www.collectors-show.com/artistgall.html

you can see a couple of pictures of his steel. This is a gallery of makers who attended the Collectors Show, the knife show last weekend in Napa, California. Ric's pics are about half way down. You can click the thumbnails to enlarge the pictures. The knife in the picture just above Ric himself was at the show. Nice piece.

David

Jeff D · 23rd January 2005, 05:41 PM

Mare Rosu,

You might be interested in this discussion, it is long but well worth the time. There are photo's of Ric's wootz posted.

http://forums.swordforum.com/showthr...5&pagenumber=1

Jeff

Mare Rosu · 23rd January 2005, 11:58 PM

Double Edge;
Thanks for the link. Ric wootz sure looks good to me, it has the same pattern as the wootz I have (Pendray & Oriental Arms ) woots blades.

Jeff D.
Now that is one long posting! thank you

I should answer those folks as I have one of those pictured ingots of wootz from Oriental Arms. Have a bar from them also.
Now the BIG question/comment is that I had a very large bar of wootz from the Alwar Armory in India with inscriptions on the ingot, I had Al Pendray make a Bowie our of half of it which is a companion of one of Al's own wootz Bowie he also made for me (check the Mug posting and take a look)
I had no problem in having it heated and beated by Al, into a Bowie.
From the information I have is that the Indian Government has stopped exportation of such ingots. Mine came from Europe via Oriental Arms.
I plan to keep the two remaining wootz ingots as they are and not make a blade from them.
Thanks again guys

21st January 2005, 06:35 PM	#1
Double Edge Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4	PATENTS Gene, I'm not aware of any patents Al might have on wootz. Others have made it besides Al and Rick. I believe Larry Harley claims to have made wootz, although I have not seen any. Rick does make a small ceramic crucible into which he adds iron and his "secret recipe of 11 herbs and spices". He showed me a small blade, about 6" long, just over an inch wide, and almost 5/32 thick that he has made to replicate (to some extent anyway) an antique middle eastern knife. His color and patterning were a bit subtle, but remember I'm more used to pattern welded damascus with a good deal of contrast. Rick also had heat treated this blade and it showed a hamon. I found that odd, but did not have the time to get more details on it. Either this one or another had some interesting patterning, a variation of a ladder I believe. I found the wootz interesting enought that I'm itching to make something with it. Yes, my wife is quite a shot. She may not be the Texas NRA Bullseye champ, but still I wouldn't want to be on the other end of her sights. Competition? Go for it! David

23rd January 2005, 05:25 PM	#2
Double Edge Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4	OTHER MODERN WOOTZ Gene and Others, In this discussion on wootz I mentioned Ric Furrer's wootz. At this link http://www.collectors-show.com/artistgall.html you can see a couple of pictures of his steel. This is a gallery of makers who attended the Collectors Show, the knife show last weekend in Napa, California. Ric's pics are about half way down. You can click the thumbnails to enlarge the pictures. The knife in the picture just above Ric himself was at the show. Nice piece. David

23rd January 2005, 11:58 PM	#4
Mare Rosu Deceased Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: USA, DEEP SOUTH, GEORGIA, Y'all hear? Posts: 121	THANKS Double Edge; Thanks for the link. Ric wootz sure looks good to me, it has the same pattern as the wootz I have (Pendray & Oriental Arms ) woots blades. Jeff D. Now that is one long posting! thank you I should answer those folks as I have one of those pictured ingots of wootz from Oriental Arms. Have a bar from them also. Now the BIG question/comment is that I had a very large bar of wootz from the Alwar Armory in India with inscriptions on the ingot, I had Al Pendray make a Bowie our of half of it which is a companion of one of Al's own wootz Bowie he also made for me (check the Mug posting and take a look) I had no problem in having it heated and beated by Al, into a Bowie. From the information I have is that the Indian Government has stopped exportation of such ingots. Mine came from Europe via Oriental Arms. I plan to keep the two remaining wootz ingots as they are and not make a blade from them. Thanks again guys

23rd January 2005, 05:41 PM	#3
Jeff D Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: B.C. Canada Posts: 473	Mare Rosu, You might be interested in this discussion, it is long but well worth the time. There are photo's of Ric's wootz posted. http://forums.swordforum.com/showthr...5&pagenumber=1 Jeff