unusual tulwar /pulwar with straight blade

Jens Nordlunde · 26th May 2018, 10:03 AM

Ariel,
I dont remember which picture I sent you, but here are a few from Hamza.
It seems as if only two hilt forms were used, and notice in the picture showing many weapons, in the top left corner two of the swords have a hand guard. I dont remember tto have seen other swords with a hand guard in Hamza.

ariel · 26th May 2018, 11:57 AM

Great!!!
Many thanks!
This is a wonderful reference for this and future discussions.

Jens Nordlunde · 26th May 2018, 09:14 PM

Yes, the Hamza is very important if you want to study Indian weapons, beiing from the 16th century, and it shows a lot of different wepons, besides from telling a very special story.

chiefheadknocker · 5th July 2020, 08:47 PM

I know this is an old thread , and ive kept this sword for some time, recently i have been informed by a few sword collectors that the sword in a piso pondang , sumatra and not indian !
whats your thoughts, is this right and how can we tell ?

JBG163 · 5th July 2020, 09:13 PM

I think you right with the piso podang assumption !

Gustav · 5th July 2020, 10:17 PM

If I may suggest, just search for "chenangkas" and go to the thread "Piso Podang Batak or Borneo?" from 2011 please.

ariel · 6th July 2020, 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefheadknocker

I know this is an old thread , and ive kept this sword for some time, recently i have been informed by a few sword collectors that the sword in a piso pondang , sumatra and not indian !
whats your thoughts, is this right and how can we tell ?

Piso Podangs are likely to have brass handles, asymmetric swelling of the grip and much more figurative endings of the quillons. Yours has none of the above.

We seem to have a difference of opinions: nothing unusual in this field.

I rely in Hamza Nama, Elgood, Brian Isaak and Jens. Personally, I could not think of better sources of info.
But yours might be correct, too.

JBG163 · 6th July 2020, 05:07 PM

Gustav is maybe right too !
Hard choice

26th May 2018, 10:03 AM	#1
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Ariel, I dont remember which picture I sent you, but here are a few from Hamza. It seems as if only two hilt forms were used, and notice in the picture showing many weapons, in the top left corner two of the swords have a hand guard. I dont remember tto have seen other swords with a hand guard in Hamza. Attached Images

5th July 2020, 08:47 PM	#4
chiefheadknocker Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 143	piso podang? I know this is an old thread , and ive kept this sword for some time, recently i have been informed by a few sword collectors that the sword in a piso pondang , sumatra and not indian ! whats your thoughts, is this right and how can we tell ?

26th May 2018, 11:57 AM	#2
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Great!!! Many thanks! This is a wonderful reference for this and future discussions.

26th May 2018, 09:14 PM	#3
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Yes, the Hamza is very important if you want to study Indian weapons, beiing from the 16th century, and it shows a lot of different wepons, besides from telling a very special story.

5th July 2020, 09:13 PM	#5
JBG163 Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: France Posts: 209	I think you right with the piso podang assumption !

5th July 2020, 10:17 PM	#6
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,280	If I may suggest, just search for "chenangkas" and go to the thread "Piso Podang Batak or Borneo?" from 2011 please.

6th July 2020, 05:07 PM	#8
JBG163 Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: France Posts: 209	Gustav is maybe right too ! Hard choice