Ottoman trousse

RSWORD · 13th May 2018, 09:29 PM

Seems a mismatched set to me. Why have brass handles and silver scabbard?

Kubur · 13th May 2018, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RSWORD

Seems a mismatched set to me. Why have brass handles and silver scabbard?

it's not unusual... or just uncleaned silver...

Victrix · 13th May 2018, 10:06 PM

Never seen this type of knives before. They don’t look very martial so would guess they are eating utensils? Something for when you invite your friends out for a barbeque in nature? Both scabbards pictured are decorated with fish scales at the bottom, which could be a coincidence or point towards use with fish? The latter scabbard is clearly designed to be worn on a belt.

Or kebab vendor’s knife set? Perhaps the knife would need sharpening and there was no time so he would just grab the next knife available to avoid loss of custom to a nearby competitor?

Kubur · 16th February 2019, 05:57 PM

Hi guys
more of these
they are too nice to be butcher tools...

OsobistGB · 21st February 2019, 09:12 PM

My version is that they have become popular thanks to janissaries.I've seen different combinations....Knife and fork ..knife , fork and skewer , but these are later combinations.
I have an excellent set, which I think is the middle of XVIII century

As is known, janissaries have a special cult of eating.I suppose you know that instead of the battle flag they worship the bowl in which they prepare food for the horde.I suppose they used such utensils in their meals , and later and a consequence of richer merchants have taken this fashion and spread it across the Empire

Kubur · 22nd February 2019, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by OsobistGB

I have an excellent set, which I think is the middle of XVIII century

As is known, janissaries have a special cult of eating.I suppose you know that instead of the battle flag they worship the bowl in which they prepare food for the horde.I suppose they used such utensils in their meals , and later and a consequence of richer merchants have taken this fashion and spread it across the Empire

Your set is amazing. I have one very similar to the one sold by Ashoka.
North African, Algerian.
I didnt't know about the Janissaries.
I guess a translation of what is written on the blades could help... where is Ibraheem??

Kubur · 20th June 2020, 09:38 AM

I hope Mister Kwiatek will read this thread...
I need his help!!! Thanks

In Europe they call these trousses 'hunting trousses"...

16th February 2019, 05:57 PM	#4
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Hi guys more of these they are too nice to be butcher tools... Attached Images

21st February 2019, 09:12 PM	#5
OsobistGB Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 95	My version is that they have become popular thanks to janissaries.I've seen different combinations....Knife and fork ..knife , fork and skewer , but these are later combinations. I have an excellent set, which I think is the middle of XVIII century As is known, janissaries have a special cult of eating.I suppose you know that instead of the battle flag they worship the bowl in which they prepare food for the horde.I suppose they used such utensils in their meals , and later and a consequence of richer merchants have taken this fashion and spread it across the Empire Attached Images

20th June 2020, 09:38 AM	#7
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	I hope Mister Kwiatek will read this thread... I need his help!!! Thanks In Europe they call these trousses 'hunting trousses"... Attached Images

13th May 2018, 09:29 PM	#1
RSWORD Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,086	Seems a mismatched set to me. Why have brass handles and silver scabbard?

13th May 2018, 10:06 PM	#3
Victrix Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Sweden Posts: 755	Never seen this type of knives before. They don’t look very martial so would guess they are eating utensils? Something for when you invite your friends out for a barbeque in nature? Both scabbards pictured are decorated with fish scales at the bottom, which could be a coincidence or point towards use with fish? The latter scabbard is clearly designed to be worn on a belt. Or kebab vendor’s knife set? Perhaps the knife would need sharpening and there was no time so he would just grab the next knife available to avoid loss of custom to a nearby competitor?