"Is it really a Cockatoo?"

CCUAL · 11th May 2018, 11:18 PM

CCUAL
bro, congratulations in snagging that piece! i'm pretty sure i was the bidder you outbidded, lol, but no worries, it wasn't meant for me. thanks for posting some close ups![/QUOTE]

sorry about that bro, but for sure when i am ready let go "kris sarimanok" will be a gift to you.

Gustav · 13th May 2018, 02:33 PM

In 1985, there was a big Philippines exposition in Germany, and Museum fuer Voelkerkunde in Munich (which has an important and early (many collected before 1883) collection of Kris) did publish a small book. There is an article by Rose Schubert (curator for SEA), which explains the hilt pommels (especially Junggayan) exactly the way Ron sees them.

I doubt it's her own idea (of course everything is possible), so I give the publications she put in her bibliography (besides publications already mentioned by Ron in #35):

Casiño, Eric S. 1981, "Arts and Peoples of the Southern Philippines", in Gabriel Casal, "The People and Arts of the Philippines", Los Angeles: Museum of Cultural History, University of California.

Cole, Fay-Cooper, 1914, "The Wild Tribes of Davao District, Mindanao", Field Museum of Natural History, Publ. 170, Antrhropological Series, Vol. XII, No. 2, Chicago.

Foy, W., 1899, "Schwerter von der Celebes See", Publikationen aus dem Königlichen Ethnographischen Museum zu Dresden, Band XII, Dresden.

and, more popular, Juynboll, 1928, "Philippines" and David Szanton, 1963, "Art in Sulu: A Survey", in IPC Papers Nr. 3.

Ian · 14th May 2018, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Gustav

In 1985, there was a big Philippines exposition in Germany, and Museum fuer Voelkerkunde in Munich [which has an important and early (many collected before 1883) collection of Kris] did publish a small book. There is an article by Rose Schubert (curator for SEA), which explains the hilt pommels (especially Junggayan) exactly the way Ron sees them. ...

Gustav,

This is excellent news! Would it be possible to scan the article into a PDF file and post it here as an attachment? It is possible to attach .PDF files to a post in the same manner as .JPG and other graphics files.

I have copies of the Casino, Cole, and Foy references but they are on a ship at this time heading for Australia. From memory, I don't recall anything about Moro hilts and their attribution in those references. I don't have the other references you mention. Can you provide more details about the IPC Papers (what does IPC stand for?).

I look forward to reading what Dr Schubert has to say.

Regards,

Ian.

11th May 2018, 11:18 PM	#1
CCUAL Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 76	CCUAL bro, congratulations in snagging that piece! i'm pretty sure i was the bidder you outbidded, lol, but no worries, it wasn't meant for me. thanks for posting some close ups![/QUOTE] sorry about that bro, but for sure when i am ready let go "kris sarimanok" will be a gift to you. Attached Images Last edited by CCUAL; 11th May 2018 at 11:48 PM.

13th May 2018, 02:33 PM	#2
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,280	In 1985, there was a big Philippines exposition in Germany, and Museum fuer Voelkerkunde in Munich (which has an important and early (many collected before 1883) collection of Kris) did publish a small book. There is an article by Rose Schubert (curator for SEA), which explains the hilt pommels (especially Junggayan) exactly the way Ron sees them. I doubt it's her own idea (of course everything is possible), so I give the publications she put in her bibliography (besides publications already mentioned by Ron in #35): Casiño, Eric S. 1981, "Arts and Peoples of the Southern Philippines", in Gabriel Casal, "The People and Arts of the Philippines", Los Angeles: Museum of Cultural History, University of California. Cole, Fay-Cooper, 1914, "The Wild Tribes of Davao District, Mindanao", Field Museum of Natural History, Publ. 170, Antrhropological Series, Vol. XII, No. 2, Chicago. Foy, W., 1899, "Schwerter von der Celebes See", Publikationen aus dem Königlichen Ethnographischen Museum zu Dresden, Band XII, Dresden. and, more popular, Juynboll, 1928, "Philippines" and David Szanton, 1963, "Art in Sulu: A Survey", in IPC Papers Nr. 3.