By a collector, for collectors

Seerp Visser · 5th April 2018, 06:49 PM

jagabuwana,

I know both books mentioned in this thread.
The Javanese kris (Der Kris der Javaner), i should recommend.

Dr. Groneman was a physician, not an empu and even not a blacksmith.
Some parts of the work performed by Karja di Krama were even not described by Dr. Groneman, so most likely, they were not shown to him.

When you want to learn to forge a keris, you will have to find the answers to a lot of remaining questions.

But..... that is a good training and wil give you a lot of satisfaction each time you approach closer to the results you want to reach.

You will find out that the empu's were real masters, but also these days i see very good forging work and beautiful results.

I am practizing the forging of the keris, made by karja di Krama, since 2014 and get the feeling that i am coming close (i am a blacksmith by profession).

Wenever yo might have a specific question i can help you with, you may always contact me. If i know the answer i will tell you.

jagabuwana · 5th April 2018, 11:36 PM

thank you everyone, this has all been very helpful.

Seerp, thank you for offering your knowledge and I'm sure there's a lot I can learn.

5th April 2018, 06:49 PM	#1
Seerp Visser Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Belgium Posts: 37	jagabuwana, I know both books mentioned in this thread. The Javanese kris (Der Kris der Javaner), i should recommend. Dr. Groneman was a physician, not an empu and even not a blacksmith. Some parts of the work performed by Karja di Krama were even not described by Dr. Groneman, so most likely, they were not shown to him. When you want to learn to forge a keris, you will have to find the answers to a lot of remaining questions. But..... that is a good training and wil give you a lot of satisfaction each time you approach closer to the results you want to reach. You will find out that the empu's were real masters, but also these days i see very good forging work and beautiful results. I am practizing the forging of the keris, made by karja di Krama, since 2014 and get the feeling that i am coming close (i am a blacksmith by profession). Wenever yo might have a specific question i can help you with, you may always contact me. If i know the answer i will tell you.

5th April 2018, 11:36 PM	#2
jagabuwana Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 290	thank you everyone, this has all been very helpful. Seerp, thank you for offering your knowledge and I'm sure there's a lot I can learn.