Flintlock Musket Advice Required

Oliver Pinchot · 14th March 2018, 05:48 PM

We've had several of these walk in over the years; not my area per se
but they are usually associated with Colonial Africa.

I knew Jim Gooding for many years, he was a fine scholar and professor who
was precise in his research and clear in his writing; no ambiguity with him. If he doesn't mention orange-painted stocks vis a vis Hudson Bay guns in his book, it's pretty certain they should not be attributed to that area.

Norman McCormick · 14th March 2018, 08:04 PM

Hi,
Many thanks to all for the continued interest, info and advice.
Regards,
Norman.

fernando · 15th March 2018, 01:08 PM

Gentlemen, let me add a further 'touch up' to my humble participation in the paint issue, once my previous post #8 was somehow inconclusive...

Here is an Africanized Lazarina. Barrel mouth reinforced with skin, stock comb decorated with leather strips and the inevitable brass nails and washers. The octogonal barrel with Birmingham proof marks and the number 15 (bore?), with the traditional inscription LAZARO LAZARINO LEGITIMO DE BRAGA. The lock and other parts are of national (Portuguese) production.
For those unfamiliar with the portuguese, i will give it a try at translating the part referring to the paint subject:

One of the particularities of interest in this example is that it preserves the original woods (often replaced in Africa with more noble woods) which used to leave Portugal painted red. Remnants of the original colour may be seen under the washers and skin reinforcements that turned open with time

( Courtesy Eduardo Nobre in AS ARMAS E OS BARÕES)

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Norman McCormick · 15th March 2018, 09:57 PM

Hi Fernando,
Many thanks for the further info.
Kind Regards,
Norman.

15th March 2018, 01:08 PM	#3
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Gentlemen, let me add a further 'touch up' to my humble participation in the paint issue, once my previous post #8 was somehow inconclusive... Here is an Africanized Lazarina. Barrel mouth reinforced with skin, stock comb decorated with leather strips and the inevitable brass nails and washers. The octogonal barrel with Birmingham proof marks and the number 15 (bore?), with the traditional inscription LAZARO LAZARINO LEGITIMO DE BRAGA. The lock and other parts are of national (Portuguese) production. For those unfamiliar with the portuguese, i will give it a try at translating the part referring to the paint subject: One of the particularities of interest in this example is that it preserves the original woods (often replaced in Africa with more noble woods) which used to leave Portugal painted red. Remnants of the original colour may be seen under the washers and skin reinforcements that turned open with time ( Courtesy Eduardo Nobre in AS ARMAS E OS BARÕES) . Attached Images

14th March 2018, 05:48 PM	#1
Oliver Pinchot Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 465	We've had several of these walk in over the years; not my area per se but they are usually associated with Colonial Africa. I knew Jim Gooding for many years, he was a fine scholar and professor who was precise in his research and clear in his writing; no ambiguity with him. If he doesn't mention orange-painted stocks vis a vis Hudson Bay guns in his book, it's pretty certain they should not be attributed to that area.

14th March 2018, 08:04 PM	#2
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,618	Hi, Many thanks to all for the continued interest, info and advice. Regards, Norman.

15th March 2018, 09:57 PM	#4
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,618	Hi Fernando, Many thanks for the further info. Kind Regards, Norman.