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Hello Algelan,
Very nice family pic! ![]() BTW, did you showed us the kris at the bottom already? Congrats to the new addition! I have a hunch that the blade might be Sulu rather than Marano - could you please add a close-up of the gangya area taken directly from above, please? The cross-piece is definitely Sulu; the scabbard silver bands look restored to me from the pics (despite some dings). I do wonder whether the hilt got married to the blade at a later time (maybe abroad)? The last band with okir seems a tad large, too. Any hints it might be an older replacement? (Looks like genuine Moro craftsmanship though.) Just speculating a bit to hear your thoughts - pics can be deceiving. Regards, Kai |
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Aslan, I agree with you that the blade is Maranao. The okir on the hilt mounts also look Maguindanao or Maranao (sometimes difficult to tell being next to each other).
Kai, sometimes Maranao scabbard wrangka tops have this older form that is similar to the Sulu versions. Congratulations on a great piece and growing family of great kris! ![]() My request: would you post closeups of the 3rd and 4th kris hilts please? (3rd and 4th from the top) |
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Dear Asian Paladin,
I have noted that all your Datu-style Junggayan Ivory Hilts are accompanied with straight blades. Is this merely a coincidence, or actual trend amongst Datu-style Junggayan Ivory Hilted krises that they are usually accompanied with straight blades? |
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David is correct. In fact, none of these kris are junggayan. All but 2 of the above krises so far are considered danganan pommel styles (and one of these kris isn't even Moro but Malaysian).
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The kris at the bottom was the first kris in my collection and the first bit of ivory I owned. I was lucky with that one as I got it cheap, the seller didn't know the hilt was ivory and probably mistook it for wood or something due to the dark patina. The blade was corroded all over so it took me a lot of effort to clean. It seemed it have undergone a lot of etching in the past thus the erosion of the edges as well as the laminations looking almost topographical. I think there appears to be faint talismanic symbols as well. I also think it is a Sulu kris. The pic of the kris with the dark, corroded blade is from the seller. Last edited by Aslan Paladin; 27th January 2018 at 04:42 AM. |
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