Help with Yatagan no.1 inscriptions

Norman McCormick · 31st October 2017, 05:44 PM

Hi Bojan,
I can see a date but the last numeral is difficult to read. I think it translates as 1213 A.H. which would convert to 1798/99 A.D.
Regards,
Norman.

Edster · 31st October 2017, 06:30 PM

Hi Bojan,

One of the designs looks like a take-off on a Tughra or monogram of Ottoman sultans. Each sultan had an individual design, but seemed to follow a standard design theme. See link. Translation of the inscribed text may shed some light on its history, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tughra

Regards,
Ed

triglav · 31st October 2017, 06:40 PM

Maybe Ottoman date 1211, don't know about two vertical lines " -_". Blede is heavy T shape almost 1 cm wide at the back. Blade is not flat but has nice profile towards the cutting edge like in 18.th century calvary swords, I din't saw this type of edge in other Yatagans. Correctly, writtings looks like in thre diferent styles. Also see some numbers in last bold text...very interestig.
Hope to find out what are the meanings the rest of the texts.
Bojan

Norman McCormick · 1st November 2017, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by triglav

Maybe Ottoman date 1211

Hi Bojan,
Could be, so that would make it 1796 A.D.
Regards,
Norman.

triglav · 3rd November 2017, 06:43 AM

The rest of diferent signatures realy needs a Turk language expert. Last bolded text were made with a tehniqe that I never saw before..letters are made and filled with tiny "rounded" lines, not hamerred like rest of the signatures..Also find some numbers in this "bolded" text..
Thank you and best regards,
Bojan

mariusgmioc · 3rd November 2017, 01:23 PM

I wonder what happened to Zifir as he didn't post anything lately but in the past he helped me with the translation on a Turkish Yataghan?!

triglav · 4th November 2017, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mariusgmioc

I wonder what happened to Zifir as he didn't post anything lately but in the past he helped me with the translation on a Turkish Yataghan?!

Hope that Mr. Zifir is ok. I read his profesional translations of Ottomam writtings.
Thank you and best regards to all,
Bojan

triglav · 27th November 2017, 05:34 AM

Hope to find out at least in which languages are this diferent styles of texts..
Thank you and best regards,
Bojan S.

31st October 2017, 06:40 PM	#3
triglav Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 8	Maybe Ottoman date 1211, don't know about two vertical lines " -_". Blede is heavy T shape almost 1 cm wide at the back. Blade is not flat but has nice profile towards the cutting edge like in 18.th century calvary swords, I din't saw this type of edge in other Yatagans. Correctly, writtings looks like in thre diferent styles. Also see some numbers in last bold text...very interestig. Hope to find out what are the meanings the rest of the texts. Bojan Attached Images Last edited by triglav; 1st November 2017 at 01:42 PM.

3rd November 2017, 06:43 AM	#5
triglav Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 8	The rest of diferent signatures realy needs a Turk language expert. Last bolded text were made with a tehniqe that I never saw before..letters are made and filled with tiny "rounded" lines, not hamerred like rest of the signatures..Also find some numbers in this "bolded" text.. Thank you and best regards, Bojan Attached Images

31st October 2017, 05:44 PM	#1
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,613	Hi Bojan, I can see a date but the last numeral is difficult to read. I think it translates as 1213 A.H. which would convert to 1798/99 A.D. Regards, Norman.

31st October 2017, 06:30 PM	#2
Edster Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 411	Hi Bojan, One of the designs looks like a take-off on a Tughra or monogram of Ottoman sultans. Each sultan had an individual design, but seemed to follow a standard design theme. See link. Translation of the inscribed text may shed some light on its history, etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tughra Regards, Ed

3rd November 2017, 01:23 PM	#6
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,906	I wonder what happened to Zifir as he didn't post anything lately but in the past he helped me with the translation on a Turkish Yataghan?!

27th November 2017, 05:34 AM	#8
triglav Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 8	Hope to find out at least in which languages are this diferent styles of texts.. Thank you and best regards, Bojan S.