Ottoman or Balkan carnelian belts.

[Kubur]

Originally Posted by estcrh

There is a carnelian belt that supposedly is in the Coptic Museum, Cairo Egypt, so somehow at least one of these belts ended up in Egypt, unfortunately there is no discription to go with the picture.

I just posted this here on the off chance that a forum member might have some additional information on the subject.

If these belts ended in the balkans, Egypt and North Africa (see the paintings)
then maybe these belts are Ottoman!
Do you know any example from Turkey?

Best,
Kubur

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

There are many examples of Eastern European photographs showing women also wearing carnelian belts (jakicar). SEE https://www.pinterest.co.uk/worldant...opean/?lp=true

[Kubur]

Well Oliver was right.
All the male examples are paintings and female are photographs.
Even the Montenegrin example doesnt show carnelian belts, look at this painted postcard (photo)...

[estcrh]

Originally Posted by Kubur

Well Oliver was right.
All the male examples are paintings and female are photographs.
Even the Montenegrin example doesnt show carnelian belts, look at this painted postcard (photo)...

Kuber, in the Balkans they were a womans belt. At some point in time they started to be painted and attributed as a mans belt. My question still is whether an orienalist painter ever saw an Ottoman man / Khedival Egyptian man wearing one or did some painter just decide it was a mans belt when first seeing one and started the whole "mans belt" controversy.