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this is a William Rodgers blade but in I'm not sure if the handle and mounts are original ,the blade fits into the sheath very nicely , but I'm noe expert and any info and comment will be much appretiated
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Very nice find, I'm sure all of it is original, many of this type had similar grips etc.
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If the mounts are English silver they should be hall-marked.
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Nice knife
Rodgers also made the British special forces commando knives after WWII the blade shape is quiet similar Fairbairn-Sykes Rodgers knife and you will find similar blades, guard is also similar I had one of the commando knives stamped by Rodgers on the cross guard but sold a long time ago The blade on your knife is like the First pattern Fairbairn-Sykes knife But I think Rodgers only made the third pattern knife Commando knives are a bit outside the remit of the forum so I will stop here. 😀 Regards Ken |
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thanks for your input |
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You might notice how similar this dagger is to the WW2 pattern Fairburn Sykes Commando Dagger . For this reason it is interesting to read https://www.sheffieldcollectablekniv...commando-knife
which has plenty of pre 1900 detail attached to it. Who would carry such a knife ... they look dangerous to me? ![]() ![]() |
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I am 99% sure this is a 1950s Rodgers blade which has been remounted and also refitted with this scabbard. This pattern of blade is claimed by some to have come into existence during WW2 but so far I have seen no prime source evidence of this , but am keen to be shown some. The fittings do not look British to me and I feel this is a 'marriage' .... not to deceive but perhaps more likely to appeal to 'Mediterranean' or similar tastes .
William Rodgers name appears on English knives of the 20th century with the I CUT MY WAY trademark ... but in the 19th century W Rodgers is more associated with spring , tool and balance manufacture . I believe the firm ceased to trade in the early 20th century and the name and trademark was taken up by the cutlers Clarke of SHEFFIELD. The famous 19th century maker of high quality bowie and hunting knives was the unrelated Sheffield firm of JOSEPH RODGERS. |
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how to read english silver plate marks: http://www.silvercollection.it/dicti...latemarks.html of course if it doesn't have any, you can't use that. ![]() if it's silver, a drop of egg yolk on it will leave a black spot fairly quickly, the more silver purity, the quicker the spot develops. |
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Quite possible it is silver plate. Easy to tell if you file a small spot where you won't notice it.
As for the blade it looks original. Double sided blades are common many centuries before Fairbairn Sykes made their dagger. |
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this may even be a 1950s Wm Rodgers blade with the additional enhancement of 19th C cutlery fittings .... I illustrate here 2 grips , one from this knife , one from another knife on this site which many of us believe is definitely a marriage between older grip and newer knife , and for reference , a Victorian cutlery set of the type that is often cannibalised to make this hybrids. This is course is a theory offered by me in this particular instance, though my experience is that it commonly occurs .
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After looking closely I think for sure the handle and scabbard have been added later to the blade , for one the handle is very slightly off centre to the blade and the blade is too short for the scabbard , plus the pommel has very close resemblance to some cutlery as shown , well thanks for everyones input
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See also http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=15133 for the famous and well respected Joseph Rodgers butter knife converted to Omani Work Knives ...
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