Islamic Text Found in a swordhandle

RhysMichael · 12th March 2006, 08:29 PM

I do not have any from that early. If you have any contacts there your best bet might be the Museum of Ethnography in Leiden, the Netherlands, now “RMV Leiden”. I am sure they have paintings/ drawings from that time period. Actual pictures of course would not be available ( The first known successful picture was produced in June/July 1827 by Niépce, using material that hardened on exposure to light. This picture required an exposure of eight hours. Though there is rumor of experiments with it as far back as da Vinci) Also any information you can share on the provenance of this sword would be helpful. I knew peudeueng went back as far as the 17th century but I thought the hulu meu apet was a later form. It seems now this form of the sword may be older than I thought.

Thanks

Dajak · 13th March 2006, 06:44 AM

Hi with all the papers I did get there is some information that this sword date back to 1650

there are a few date s on the back off the silver one off them is 1690

Let me know if you need a better pic for your web site

Raja Muda · 14th March 2006, 12:44 AM

Dear Dajak,

Sorry but couldn't help you with the cryptic words. They're definitely not in Malay, Minangkabau or Arabic, so I'm assuming they're in Acehnese or even Gayo.

Dajak · 14th March 2006, 06:18 AM

Hi Thanks Raja Muda

If there is anyone who can translate this I would be happy

12th March 2006, 08:29 PM	#1
RhysMichael Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 520	I do not have any from that early. If you have any contacts there your best bet might be the Museum of Ethnography in Leiden, the Netherlands, now “RMV Leiden”. I am sure they have paintings/ drawings from that time period. Actual pictures of course would not be available ( The first known successful picture was produced in June/July 1827 by Niépce, using material that hardened on exposure to light. This picture required an exposure of eight hours. Though there is rumor of experiments with it as far back as da Vinci) Also any information you can share on the provenance of this sword would be helpful. I knew peudeueng went back as far as the 17th century but I thought the hulu meu apet was a later form. It seems now this form of the sword may be older than I thought. Thanks Last edited by RhysMichael; 12th March 2006 at 10:05 PM.

14th March 2006, 12:44 AM	#3
Raja Muda Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Posts: 100	Strange Words Dear Dajak, Sorry but couldn't help you with the cryptic words. They're definitely not in Malay, Minangkabau or Arabic, so I'm assuming they're in Acehnese or even Gayo.

13th March 2006, 06:44 AM	#2
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi with all the papers I did get there is some information that this sword date back to 1650 there are a few date s on the back off the silver one off them is 1690 Let me know if you need a better pic for your web site

14th March 2006, 06:18 AM	#4
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi Thanks Raja Muda If there is anyone who can translate this I would be happy