Swords a la Portuguese

[fernando]

Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi

Quite a late invention almost a revival sword...but with vestiges of the Jinete and accents from the Nimcha and with long live Spain on the blade. It seemed a pity not to include.

I guess the whole engraving has the misspelt inscription " VIVA EL REY DE ESPANNA" but, Zenete and Nimcha accents are hardly there ... and still i don't see this sword connected with swords a la Portuguese; far too long a shot ... perhaps a case for binoculars .

Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi

This is a Portuguese sword though lightly disguised as something else;

If i recall, there never was any evidence that this sword is Portuguese .

[fernando]

More on the Colonial sword (Mbele a Lulendo) being continued HERE

[midelburgo]

We discussed on this subject at a Spanish site in 2012 (in Spanish sorry).

http://www.esgrimaantigua.com/forum/...lit=portuguesa

Regards.

[fernando]

Interesting link, Javier.
In fact i also have the monography by Armando Canelhas, which i confess was a little forgotten in my readings.

[midelburgo]

Fascinating story that of the Mbele a Lulendo. Actually I got offered one of those in 2006 and I really took it for a XVIth century Portuguese sword. I did not buy it however. I must have pictures somewhere...And a loose hilt appeared at ebay in 2012:

http://www.swordforum.com/forums/sho...7-What-is-this

I now think that the colonial Spanish swords with the lobated dish-hilt and brass applications at knucklebow and cross are from Philippines.

PS. I found the pictures from the sword I was offered in 2006 and it is the same "1697" sword discussed above.

[fernando]

Following "Swords a la Portuguese part two" may be found HERE

[Victrix]

Just to inform those interested in the subject that there’s an Osprey Men-at-Arms publication by David Nicolle entitled The Portuguese in the Age of Discovery c.1340-1665. It’s available on the internet.