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Old 8th July 2017, 11:51 PM   #1
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The title on the full sized image is "Settling a Frontier Dispute". Illustration for The Illustrated London News, 9 October 1880, Artist R C Woodville. I also have seen this described as "Albanian and a Montenegrin in combat".

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Very nice pic, but raising a question......The 2 guys coming up the hill appear to be wearing Arab head dress, so if the "frontier" is being defended, which frontier is it??
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Mr. Nichan, an Armenian, born at Savaz, Armenia, about 500 miles from Constantinople. He was one of the life guards of the late Sultan Abdul Aziz (he died 1876). The Ottoman kilij sword he wears, sheathed in a beautiful scabbard set with jewels and richly ornamented, was presented to him by the Sultan for meritorious services. From the book "Portrait types of the Midway Plaisance", 1894, a collection of photographs taken at the 6 months of the Worlds Columbian exposition.
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This kilij looks to be one of those examples covered in corals and turquoise.

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Old 11th July 2017, 01:17 AM   #4
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This kilij looks to be one of those examples covered in corals and turquoise.

Great to have background info.
Actually it came from an old forum post on that subject. I just edited the image a bit.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=5860
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Old 11th July 2017, 01:19 AM   #5
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Very nice pic, but raising a question......The 2 guys coming up the hill appear to be wearing Arab head dress, so if the "frontier" is being defended, which frontier is it??
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There were so many "frontiers" being fought over during that time period it would be hard to pick one, it is possible that the backround figures represent Afghans.
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There were so many "frontiers" being fought over during that time period it would be hard to pick one, it is possible that the backround figures represent Afghans.
With all due respect, the figures in the foreground hardly look Afghan. It seems to me that this illustration shows two residents of the Balkans locked in mortal combat. It could very well be a Montenegrin and an Albanian, and the frontier in question would then be Ottoman. The mountain people of the Balkans have a reputation of being particularly fierce. In Northern Albania they also have the nasty custom from medieval times of blood feuds (vendettas -avenge blood for blood) which can continue for generations.
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With all due respect, the figures in the foreground hardly look Afghan.
I said that the "backround" figures may represent Afghans.
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I said that the "backround" figures may represent Afghans.
Ottomans, more likely.
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Old 21st July 2017, 07:39 AM   #9
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Default Rare Korean photographs showing armor being worn.

Korean brigandine armor and helmets being worn, very late 1800s to very early 1900s.
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Question Hyundai?

Interesting logo on the chair of the vehicle (only on the cloured plate).
Is it the first prototype of a Hyundai car?
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