wotsit (pioneer sword?)?

Norman McCormick · 4th July 2017, 09:45 PM

Hi Wayne,
This thread may interest you particularly post no2 and the marks on the blade http://www.swordforum.com/forums/sho...ifles-Regiment It is the only blade profile I think that fits yours. I have an 1856 Pattern Pioneers sword and the profile is different.
Regards,
Norman.

kronckew · 4th July 2017, 10:01 PM

the blade and marks fit, appears to have been repurposed, re-hilted and used in a later conflict. ww1 maybe? dad's army?

RobertGuy · 4th July 2017, 11:09 PM

Probably a private conversion rather than military. The facing arrow marks denote ''sold out of service''.

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 5th July 2017, 04:08 PM

It looks like a Martini Bayonet ... The British 1879 Sawback Bayonet with a reworked hilt Or an AC bayonet converted from P1859 Cutlass bayonet in 1878. Favoured in Irish circles and as an Engineers / Artillery weapon... ?

See http://www.bayonetsplus.com/f_MH_art_carbine.html

But its not! This is exactly as set out above by Norman at # 2...

E-Pattern-English-Pioneer's 1831-Lion Head Hanger-

kronckew · 5th July 2017, 04:36 PM

yup. the later ones were straight and not well loved i hear. just imagine one of the MH sword bayos on the end of a full lrngth .45 cal martini-henry rifle.

nice to see the full 1830's weapon.

5th July 2017, 04:08 PM	#4
Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	It looks like a Martini Bayonet ... The British 1879 Sawback Bayonet with a reworked hilt Or an AC bayonet converted from P1859 Cutlass bayonet in 1878. Favoured in Irish circles and as an Engineers / Artillery weapon... ? See http://www.bayonetsplus.com/f_MH_art_carbine.html But its not! This is exactly as set out above by Norman at # 2... E-Pattern-English-Pioneer's 1831-Lion Head Hanger- Attached Images Last edited by Ibrahiim al Balooshi; 5th July 2017 at 04:28 PM.

5th July 2017, 04:36 PM	#5
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,215	yup. the later ones were straight and not well loved i hear. just imagine one of the MH sword bayos on the end of a full lrngth .45 cal martini-henry rifle. nice to see the full 1830's weapon. Last edited by kronckew; 5th July 2017 at 04:47 PM.

4th July 2017, 09:45 PM	#1
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,613	Hi Wayne, This thread may interest you particularly post no2 and the marks on the blade http://www.swordforum.com/forums/sho...ifles-Regiment It is the only blade profile I think that fits yours. I have an 1856 Pattern Pioneers sword and the profile is different. Regards, Norman.

4th July 2017, 10:01 PM	#2
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,215	the blade and marks fit, appears to have been repurposed, re-hilted and used in a later conflict. ww1 maybe? dad's army?

4th July 2017, 11:09 PM	#3
RobertGuy Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 135	Probably a private conversion rather than military. The facing arrow marks denote ''sold out of service''.