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Old 23rd June 2017, 08:01 AM   #1
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Default Hangers and cutlass!!!

A fantastic Sincaire-type saber, just like that one we discussed from that fellow in St. Augustine. Also, a Danish cutlass, several Dutch hangers and a double disc 'Figure 8' Brit or Amer cutlass! Baltimore pattern???
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Old 23rd June 2017, 08:07 AM   #2
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Default Pirates gotta have guns!

Don't forget the importance of long guns, which were popular with the Royal and US marines up in the tops. The blunderbus were great for 'discouraging mutiny' and for ripping apart boarders. Note the priming flask gun, a rarity.

Note the caltrip, an item affiliated with boarding, a spontoon/pike, an old belay pin and a Corsican?? dagger.
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Old 23rd June 2017, 08:13 AM   #3
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Broadsides and articles dating to the Age of Fighting Sail and piracy!!

All pics copyright China Sea Trading Company.
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Old 23rd June 2017, 08:16 AM   #4
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Default And now for the really big pirate guns!!!

Lantaka, Portuguese petrarro? Nice swivel/rail gun! A small coehorn cannon. Note the bar shot, chain shot and ultra rare spike shot (17th c. back to Elizabeth's sea rovers!)

Thanks again, Bunker, for allowing me to post these!
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Old 23rd June 2017, 08:38 AM   #5
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Manacles and restraints from Age of Sail, both a hint at the slave trade and the Pirate Round.

Note some of the goodies in front of this rack of long guns. I see a nice Chinese dau, a Kybele rifle, several eagle head Amer swords.
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Old 25th June 2017, 06:45 AM   #6
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[QUOTE=M ELEY]Manacles and restraints from Age of Sail, both a hint at the slave trade and the Pirate Round.

Hi Mark, thanks for posting this interesting thread.

The shackles with the long bar, third from the left, are the type that were often used in the West African slave trade.

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Thank you, Colin, for that clarification. I suppose the others still fit in with the imprisonment of said rascals when the pirates were caught!
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...Lantaka, Portuguese petrarro? ...
Portuguese ? maybe not; we made them, they made them ... you never know, if not marked. But certainly not a 'petriero', the Italian term for 'pedreiro', a term used for earlier guns that shot stone projectiles; sorry being a brainpicker .

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... No, 'Nando, that isn't a multi-barrel handgunne. It's just an antique curling iron! ...
A curling iron ? ; can you elaborate ? The shape is so similar (to my eyes) to that in picture #12 ...

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...Thought you might like some of his swivels and iron barrel guns...
Oh, i like several things in there; the cannons, the barrels, the shackles ... you name it.

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In particular that long 6 sided barrel standing upright in pic #13. What do you think? A handgunne or simply a barrel from a large musketoon?...
Good question. Easier to identify if pictured in different angle/s. Maybe something in between ... like an haquebut barrel ...


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Old 24th June 2017, 11:19 AM   #9
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Ha ha! Got you, my friend! I was just kidding about that multi-barrel handgunne. You were correct in identifying it and I was just having some fun.
Petriero, eh? I don't know my cannons so well.

So what are your thoughts on that ivory handled dagger with wedge shaped blade? I was thinking Corsican or Venetian, like the vindetta daggers.
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...Ha ha! Got you, my friend! I was just kidding about that multi-barrel handgunne. You were correct in identifying it and I was just having some fun...
My turn next time .

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...So what are your thoughts on that ivory handled dagger with wedge shaped blade? I was thinking Corsican or Venetian, like the vindetta daggers.
I wouldn't know Mark, but as i see it, it could even be an old sailor's knife; a senior sailor, judging by the handle ... which could be bone and not ivory, anyhow !
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Portuguese ? maybe not; we made them, they made them ... you never know, if not marked. But certainly not a 'petriero', the Italian term for 'pedreiro', a term used for earlier guns that shot stone projectiles; sorry being a brainpicker .


A curling iron ? ; can you elaborate ? The shape is so similar (to my eyes) to that in picture #12 ...


Oh, i like several things in there; the cannons, the barrels, the shackles ... you name it.


Good question. Easier to identify if pictured in different angle/s. Maybe something in between ... like an haquebut barrel ...


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That 3 barreled item may be out of place.
A antique dealer friend bought a half dozen of those at the Brimfield flea market 2 years ago.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ht=hand+cannon
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That 3 barreled item may be out of place.
A antique dealer friend bought a half dozen of those at the Brimfield flea market 2 years ago.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ht=hand+cannon
I wasn't registering such an inconsistency, Rick. Apparently its owner sailed the China seas; might have bought a few in a Macau ... flea market .
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Bravo Captain ... but:

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... Note the priming flask gun, a rarity...
Do you mean the powder tester ? .

... and, by the way:
Have you missed the multi barreled handcannon ? .

... Or are my eyes tricking me ?
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Old 23rd June 2017, 04:46 PM   #14
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it was very, very interesting and a great pleasure to look at all these pictures showing items of a very long gone time, telling stories of old sailing ships, pirates and great dangerous adventures.
Thanks a lot
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Great post Mark, thanks.
Love that boarding axe and those cutlasses!

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Old 24th June 2017, 12:38 AM   #16
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Hello Fernando! Yes, a powder tester it is. I just couldn't remember the title for the thing!

No, 'Nando, that isn't a multi-barrel handgunne. It's just an antique curling iron! Thought you might like some of his swivels and iron barrel guns. In particular that long 6 sided barrel standing upright in pic #13. What do you think? A handgunne or simply a barrel from a large musketoon?
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Old 24th June 2017, 12:41 AM   #17
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Hello Corrado26, glad you like it. This collection does indeed bring back maritime memories of shadowy characters, port taverns and old sea yarns.
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