Solomon Islands club opinions?

Tim Simmons · 22nd April 2017, 04:00 PM

The difference between the right kind be that fighting or ceremonial clubs and tourist souvenir versions is plian to see here. The vine weave is a different colour that one might think looks old.

Tim Simmons · 22nd April 2017, 04:42 PM

Two more add to the collection probably not the oldest, however the same dimensions as these two posted earlier.

Tim Simmons · 23rd April 2017, 07:43 AM

Like many ornate weapons world wide in industrial and " primitive " cultures. Are used as gifts to cemment trade and diplomatic relations. In the Solomon's as in Africa and else where payment for services are made by the commissioning and gifting of prestige artefacts. Quite possibly successful people like we'll decorated weapons too.

Tim Simmons · 23rd April 2017, 08:07 AM

Look at this. A must do. New items always prompt new research.

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&so...WtnrAKZsJgojsg

Tim Simmons · 25th April 2017, 05:00 PM

This chap in 1928 had a very nice spear with shell inlay.

BANDOOK · 26th April 2017, 07:47 AM

Tim Nice picture,looks like a fishing spear.Please could you roughly tell me age of my club,thanks Rajesh

Tim Simmons · 26th April 2017, 01:45 PM

Perhaps man fishing spear. Bat wing bone spikes to stick in and fester a wound.

Rajesh, I would not like to say a definite age for your or my clubs of this type. The two new acquisitions of mine do have some age and patina. I have smeared mucilage glue on the top binding of the larger example as it was very fragile. I do not think it too optimistic to suggest a date of 1930s but that does not mean they are quite possibly older? around the first two decades of the 20th century. The biggest cultural changes are after the 40s. I must say I like your club very much with 12 fins, mine has 10 on the big one and 8 on the smaller club, fin envy. I am showing the new pieces against the tourist piece for comparison. They are multiplying . There seems a mix of styles, note the handle ends, perhaps from different Islands? even variations from the same Island?

22nd April 2017, 04:00 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,854	The difference between the right kind be that fighting or ceremonial clubs and tourist souvenir versions is plian to see here. The vine weave is a different colour that one might think looks old. Attached Images Last edited by Tim Simmons; 22nd April 2017 at 04:31 PM.

22nd April 2017, 04:42 PM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,854	Two more add to the collection probably not the oldest, however the same dimensions as these two posted earlier. Attached Images

25th April 2017, 05:00 PM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,854	This chap in 1928 had a very nice spear with shell inlay. Attached Images

26th April 2017, 01:45 PM	#7
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,854	Perhaps man fishing spear. Bat wing bone spikes to stick in and fester a wound. Rajesh, I would not like to say a definite age for your or my clubs of this type. The two new acquisitions of mine do have some age and patina. I have smeared mucilage glue on the top binding of the larger example as it was very fragile. I do not think it too optimistic to suggest a date of 1930s but that does not mean they are quite possibly older? around the first two decades of the 20th century. The biggest cultural changes are after the 40s. I must say I like your club very much with 12 fins, mine has 10 on the big one and 8 on the smaller club, fin envy. I am showing the new pieces against the tourist piece for comparison. They are multiplying . There seems a mix of styles, note the handle ends, perhaps from different Islands? even variations from the same Island? Attached Images Last edited by Tim Simmons; 26th April 2017 at 01:59 PM.

23rd April 2017, 07:43 AM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,854	Like many ornate weapons world wide in industrial and " primitive " cultures. Are used as gifts to cemment trade and diplomatic relations. In the Solomon's as in Africa and else where payment for services are made by the commissioning and gifting of prestige artefacts. Quite possibly successful people like we'll decorated weapons too.

23rd April 2017, 08:07 AM	#4
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,854	Look at this. A must do. New items always prompt new research. https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&so...WtnrAKZsJgojsg

26th April 2017, 07:47 AM	#6
BANDOOK Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: AUCKLAND,NEW ZEALAND Posts: 627	Tim Nice picture,looks like a fishing spear.Please could you roughly tell me age of my club,thanks Rajesh