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1st March 2017, 01:16 AM
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Would agree with Jose, turn of the centuries, early 20th century. I agree again, the gangya is seperate. Nice piece!
 Sadly you don't etch.  Regards, Detlef |
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1st March 2017, 02:00 AM
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Thanks Detlef , any clue why they filled the spaces in the guard ?
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1st March 2017, 03:20 AM
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1st March 2017, 03:59 AM
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Hi Jose:
Only way to know for sure is to take the hilt off and see if the gangya is separate. Right now I don't see any clear evidence of separation--the visible line is very straight and shows no edge corrosion or oxidation to suggest a point of separation that has been present for a hundred years or so. I've tried to take similar looking ones apart before, only to discover the gangya was not separate. If this is a hundred year old sword, it is in a remarkable state of preservation. Ian. |
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1st March 2017, 10:38 PM
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... another way to find out if the gangya is separated is to see if the encircled part of the kris provided are attached or not
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3rd March 2017, 09:58 PM
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Maybe these additional pictures will help to determine if the gangya is separate.
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5th March 2017, 02:11 AM
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I have had 3 similar Maguindanao kris (one stolen, one sold off) and the construction was nearly identical, and all 3 had separate gangas. I think this one is also.
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5th March 2017, 01:29 PM
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5th March 2017, 02:03 PM
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Are there any other examples or was this a "one of," that somebody thought was a good idea?
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5th March 2017, 03:24 PM
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Usually holes are filled in with precious metals. More prevalent in the holes near the tip of the Kampilan blades. Could be that, the area in your blade was filled in lieu of the missing holes. According to Cato, some components (stirrups, bands, etc..), of the Moro swords are used as commodity to pay a debt or to purchase things. A sword is a safe place to keep something of value, the owner always know where his sword is. Then owner could just knock out a small piece of silver when needed. |
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5th March 2017, 10:12 PM
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That makes sense to me as a likely possibility.
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