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Old 19th February 2017, 11:48 AM   #1
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Hi I have not been here for ages ...
Almost seven years, Damian. I was worried something wrong happened with you. Welcome back .
Probably one of our knowledged members will say something definite about your sword. Pictures of the whole thing would be important, as suggested by Wayne.
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Old 19th February 2017, 01:38 PM   #2
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Hello,
It looks like a great specimen! I agree that it is German, and might date to around 1530ish. The wolf-mark originates from Passau, but was already being copied elsewhere I think - in Solingen for example. There are two similar swords in Zurich that have a fairly similar "forked-cross" mark (but no wolf-mark).

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Old 19th February 2017, 06:05 PM   #3
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It looks like a great specimen! I agree that it is German, and might date to around 1530ish. The wolf-mark originates from Passau, but was already being copied elsewhere I think - in Solingen for example. There are two similar swords in Zurich that have a fairly similar "forked-cross" mark (but no wolf-mark).

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Mark Thank You Very Very Much for reply and information, wolf is on one side while "forked-cross" on both. I will try to place some more pics tomorrow. The sword is in rusty condition and was at least 24 years on my friends wall (this is when I first time saw it) and inlays seems to be in gold while still a bit shiny.
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Old 20th February 2017, 05:53 AM   #4
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Husar, great to have you back!!! It does not seem you were gone that long as I remember your avatar and name clearly.
Looks like a fantastic example, and even more so that it has been static for so long in a collection you know.

The latten markings are outstanding, and excellent input there Mark, with the chart and excerpts of examples!

This of the period being suggested by Mark in my opinion, and the running wolf is of course a Solingen issue of the Passau established marking. The chart from Eduard Wagner (1967) showing the running wolf variations is of course not a chronological development study, but exemplars Wagner had noted from various weapons he had examined and their approximate period.
The forked cross also appears a Solingen issue of similar markings used in Milan (usually with letter beneath) and paired with the wolf as quality or other imbuement.
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Old 20th February 2017, 12:09 PM   #5
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Mark Thank You Very Very Much for reply and information, wolf is on one side while "forked-cross" on both. I will try to place some more pics tomorrow.
You're very welcome! It would be great to see the full length of the sword, and the mark on the other side. Also, is it as large as the swords in Zurich?
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Old 25th February 2017, 07:58 PM   #6
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You're very welcome! It would be great to see the full length of the sword, and the mark on the other side. Also, is it as large as the swords in Zurich?
Finally I have found few minutes to take pic of whole sword, sorry not the best one I will try to make some in daylight tomorrow
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Old 25th February 2017, 10:44 PM   #7
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Thanks for the photo!

I've found another example of a "forked-cross" type mark for comparison, with a more curved shape that may be a little closer to your mark. The wolf appears again and is quite similar, along with an additional cross potent. This sword is in the Slavicin museum in the Czech Republic.
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Old 28th February 2017, 01:28 AM   #8
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Great looking piece! Never see any of those over here.
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Old 28th February 2017, 07:36 AM   #9
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Thanks for the photo!

I've found another example of a "forked-cross" type mark for comparison, with a more curved shape that may be a little closer to your mark. The wolf appears again and is quite similar, along with an additional cross potent. This sword is in the Slavicin museum in the Czech Republic.
Hi mark,

can you tell where you get this Picture from, very nice T-pommel sword.
Iam not sure if the "forked cross" with the round base displays a splitted cross or a monstrance.

sword of post 1, it looks as though the blade is 50-100 years older as the hilt.


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Old 19th February 2017, 05:57 PM   #10
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Almost seven years, Damian. I was worried something wrong happened with you. Welcome back .
Probably one of our knowledged members will say something definite about your sword. Pictures of the whole thing would be important, as suggested by Wayne.
yes almost seven lot of work recently and not much time for collecting but some few items came in will try to post some pics soon
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