Is it a real sword or a fantasy??

mross · 10th February 2017, 05:20 PM

Still can't tell if forged or stock removal, if not in hand somewhere we will never know, but not really relevant for real vs fantasy. I was just curious. What I do find relevant is that bump on the spine to me would preclude being able to draw the blade quickly. So unless the user is carrying it around in hand all the time, they would tend to have a very short life expectancy.

kronckew · 10th February 2017, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mross

...I was just curious. What I do find relevant is that bump on the spine to me would preclude being able to draw the blade quickly. So unless the user is carrying it around in hand all the time, they would tend to have a very short life expectancy.

it's much like a langeseax, and may be was intended to be worn in the small of your back & edge up. wonder if the side is open from the bump to the throat to make up for the bump. the finger ring would help to haul it out.

Ian · 11th February 2017, 03:48 AM

The lighting and shadows cast by the two items in the subject of this thread look very odd and inconsistent. It does not look like a real photograph to me.

Ian.

machinist · 12th February 2017, 06:36 AM

Found it http://astalo.deviantart.com/art/My-precious-281649270 An artist on Deviant Art made it for himself supposedly. Ians comment made me curious and I was sure he was right and we were all fooled so I did a reverse google image search and this piece has appeared on seemingly thousands of sites mostly about gamers and zomby apocalypses

Looking at his gallery is jawdropping http://ugo-serrano.deviantart.com/gallery/

Tim Simmons · 12th February 2017, 08:33 AM

At least we did ask for better pictures before any verdict.

fernando · 12th February 2017, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by machinist

... and we were all fooled ...

Make it a figure of speech

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ariel · 13th February 2017, 01:27 PM

I do not think we were fooled: the issue was not about quality , but rather of style and age. Rembrandt, Van Gogh and Dali come to mind:-)

David · 13th February 2017, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by machinist

Found it http://astalo.deviantart.com/art/My-precious-281649270 An artist on Deviant Art made it for himself supposedly. Ians comment made me curious and I was sure he was right and we were all fooled so I did a reverse google image search and this piece has appeared on seemingly thousands of sites mostly about gamers and zomby apocalypses

Looking at his gallery is jawdropping http://ugo-serrano.deviantart.com/gallery/

Great work. Which reverse image search did you use? When i used tineye.com i came up with a bunch of the zombie gamers, but couldn't find the source image.
No offense to Ian here, but apparently he was not right since it does seem this is indeed an actual photograph of an actual sword. I believe most of us were fairly certain this was a modern piece using past influences which does now seem to be the case. This guy is a rather talented contemporary metal smith with a flair for ancient styles. Pretty fantastic really, though obviously not what we do here.

fernando · 13th February 2017, 04:10 PM

It appears that the various opinions were diverse but also converging in that this is a fantasy ... at least in its broad sense.
In a way i can see Ian's approach on the shadows issue. Not that it defines that the objects are not real (You David, know far enough about photography to judge it) but, there are tricks about this presentation. The encounter of both sword and scabbard tips look as if the picture of both was not simultaneous; giving 'logic' to the 'ilogic' of showing them in opposite positions, something a person familiar with weaponry would not basicaly do ... nor fabricating the sword guard in a position 'ilogic' to be drawn from its scabbard.
Surely this type of implements is not within the scope of our forums but, now and then, a digestive brain storm means no harm

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mross · 13th February 2017, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by machinist

Found it http://astalo.deviantart.com/art/My-precious-281649270 An artist on Deviant Art made it for himself supposedly. Ians comment made me curious and I was sure he was right and we were all fooled so I did a reverse google image search and this piece has appeared on seemingly thousands of sites mostly about gamers and zomby apocalypses

Looking at his gallery is jawdropping http://ugo-serrano.deviantart.com/gallery/

Great detective work, he has some serious skills.

machinist · 13th February 2017, 04:12 PM

David, I used google reverse image search. After reading Ian's comment I really thought the pic had a "painted" look to it and we might just be looking at a skillfully created picture, perhaps digitally enhanced, instead of a skillfully created sword and that prompted me to take a look.

12th February 2017, 06:36 AM	#4
machinist Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 93	Found it http://astalo.deviantart.com/art/My-precious-281649270 An artist on Deviant Art made it for himself supposedly. Ians comment made me curious and I was sure he was right and we were all fooled so I did a reverse google image search and this piece has appeared on seemingly thousands of sites mostly about gamers and zomby apocalypses Looking at his gallery is jawdropping http://ugo-serrano.deviantart.com/gallery/ Last edited by machinist; 12th February 2017 at 06:51 AM.

13th February 2017, 04:10 PM	#9
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	It appears that the various opinions were diverse but also converging in that this is a fantasy ... at least in its broad sense. In a way i can see Ian's approach on the shadows issue. Not that it defines that the objects are not real (You David, know far enough about photography to judge it) but, there are tricks about this presentation. The encounter of both sword and scabbard tips look as if the picture of both was not simultaneous; giving 'logic' to the 'ilogic' of showing them in opposite positions, something a person familiar with weaponry would not basicaly do ... nor fabricating the sword guard in a position 'ilogic' to be drawn from its scabbard. Surely this type of implements is not within the scope of our forums but, now and then, a digestive brain storm means no harm . . Attached Images Last edited by fernando; 13th February 2017 at 04:58 PM.

13th February 2017, 04:12 PM	#11
machinist Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 93	David, I used google reverse image search. After reading Ian's comment I really thought the pic had a "painted" look to it and we might just be looking at a skillfully created picture, perhaps digitally enhanced, instead of a skillfully created sword and that prompted me to take a look. Last edited by machinist; 13th February 2017 at 04:28 PM.

10th February 2017, 05:20 PM	#1
mross Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 478	Still can't tell if forged or stock removal, if not in hand somewhere we will never know, but not really relevant for real vs fantasy. I was just curious. What I do find relevant is that bump on the spine to me would preclude being able to draw the blade quickly. So unless the user is carrying it around in hand all the time, they would tend to have a very short life expectancy.

11th February 2017, 03:48 AM	#3
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,361	The lighting and shadows cast by the two items in the subject of this thread look very odd and inconsistent. It does not look like a real photograph to me. Ian.

12th February 2017, 08:33 AM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,842	At least we did ask for better pictures before any verdict.

13th February 2017, 01:27 PM	#7
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	I do not think we were fooled: the issue was not about quality , but rather of style and age. Rembrandt, Van Gogh and Dali come to mind:-)