Two Brazilian Faca de Ponta for sharing

Sajen · 5th February 2017, 10:14 AM

Here the second example, the blade is a little bit over 5" long.

The pictures are from my friend Robert who also has cleaned the both knives. Enjoy.

Dajak · 5th February 2017, 03:24 PM

I like the second one.

Dajak

Sajen · 5th February 2017, 03:25 PM

Thank you Benny!

Regards,
Detlef

motan · 5th February 2017, 07:45 PM

Thank for posting this Sajen. I have been looking at similar daggers more than once and had no idea what they were. If I had to guess I would have said North Africa because of the general shape, slightly similar to Bou Sa'adi daggers and the extended pommel, also seen in some Tuareg daggers. South American daggers are not so widely known (except Gaucho knifes) and I have seen several Chilean Corvos (see http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=Corvo) sold as Indian daggers.

Sajen · 5th February 2017, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motan

Thank for posting this Sajen. I have been looking at similar daggers more than once and had no idea what they were. If I had to guess I would have said North Africa because of the general shape, slightly similar to Bou Sa'adi daggers and the extended pommel, also seen in some Tuareg daggers. South American daggers are not so widely known (except Gaucho knifes) and I have seen several Chilean Corvos (see http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=Corvo) sold as Indian daggers.

Yes, you are correct, this knives are often mislabeled. I think that the derivation of this knives and also from the corvo coming from Mediterranean daggers, the stacked handle construction you can find for example also by Canarian knives (see my own example), the often offset handle is an other indicator IMVHO. Therefore also the relationship to North African daggers like the from you mentioned bou sa'adi daggers, you can see the connection to European Mediterranean daggers (offset handle and bladeform).
Attached a picture from my Canarian knife and my Corsican dagger in comparison with the first example from here, I think the connection is clearly to seen.

Regards,
Detlef

Sajen · 26th February 2017, 12:22 AM

Here a new member of the growing family, it's a gift from my friend Robert. Maybe he will be so kind to add the measurements of this little fellow.

Robert · 26th February 2017, 01:52 PM

The above dagger measures 8-1/2 inches overall with a 5 inch blade. The hilt on this piece is composed of sections of turned stone (onyx, agate or quarts) that are separated by thin brass plates. It also has av turned brass spacer, butt cap and ferrules. All in all there was quite a bit of work involved in the making of these daggers.

Best,
Robert

5th February 2017, 10:14 AM	#1
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,164	Here the second example, the blade is a little bit over 5" long. The pictures are from my friend Robert who also has cleaned the both knives. Enjoy. Attached Images

5th February 2017, 03:24 PM	#2
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	knife I like the second one. Dajak

26th February 2017, 12:22 AM	#6
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,164	Here a new member of the growing family, it's a gift from my friend Robert. Maybe he will be so kind to add the measurements of this little fellow. Attached Images

26th February 2017, 01:52 PM	#7
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	The above dagger measures 8-1/2 inches overall with a 5 inch blade. The hilt on this piece is composed of sections of turned stone (onyx, agate or quarts) that are separated by thin brass plates. It also has av turned brass spacer, butt cap and ferrules. All in all there was quite a bit of work involved in the making of these daggers. Best, Robert Last edited by Robert; 26th February 2017 at 04:38 PM.

5th February 2017, 03:25 PM	#3
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,164	Thank you Benny! Regards, Detlef

5th February 2017, 07:45 PM	#4
motan Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Jerusalem Posts: 274	Thank for posting this Sajen. I have been looking at similar daggers more than once and had no idea what they were. If I had to guess I would have said North Africa because of the general shape, slightly similar to Bou Sa'adi daggers and the extended pommel, also seen in some Tuareg daggers. South American daggers are not so widely known (except Gaucho knifes) and I have seen several Chilean Corvos (see http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=Corvo) sold as Indian daggers.