Those "Negrito bolos" are actually Ilocano knives

F. de Luzon · 30th January 2017, 08:49 AM

Very informative!

Ian · 16th March 2017, 05:07 PM

Some recently sold Ilocano/Negrito knives.

The three on the left, with steel guards and ferrules, are all of recent manufacture--late 20th C. to the present. The largest one in the middle has a fist pommel, indicating that this style of hilt is still being made.

The two on the right have traditional brass fittings and are post-WWII but older than the others. The one on the farthest right has an atypical stacked hilt and no ferrule--perhaps a modified or custom made piece.

Ian.

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Ian · 16th March 2017, 05:23 PM

This one is interesting. Dated "1946," it is one of the earliest of this distinct style of knives which likely were produced near the old US Clark AFB and sold extensively to US servicemen.

The pommel on this one appears to show a very early form of the tri-lobed form that is seen on so many of these knives. Unlike later versions, however, the tang emerges not from the center lobe but from the lobe at the back of the hilt. I have never seen this before. If you look at all the other pics in this post of the tri-lobed feature, the hilts have a curved tang that is peined over the end of the middle lobe. The knife shown here also has a particularly deep "pinky notch" that could only be achieved if the tang was straighter than later examples. Perhaps this knife represents a transition from an earlier style which just featured the "pinky notch" and a simpler style of pommel--such examples exist and are also reasonably common.

These Negrito/Ilocano knives are found frequently online, and are still being made. I think one can appreciate how the "Negrito" styles evolved from previous Ilocano knives at the end of WWII, why the "Negrito" inscriptions and other decorations were added, and how features/materials on these distinctive knives have shifted over time.

Ian

Addendum: I have added pics of another similar knife with an older style of hilt, also dated on the blade "1946," to show how the first knife may have evolved from the earlier simple form into the tri-lobed pommel form.

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Nirghosa · 18th March 2017, 04:24 PM

Fun story: I was buying some of these in Cebu years ago and part of the seller's pitch was to do an edge on full power hack at the street pole. Blade was great, I was already in at $8 lol. Doubling back, there were a lot of marks on that pole.....

Ian · 18th March 2017, 06:39 PM

Hi nirghosa:

Yes, these are still found in major tourist centers around the country. When I was there in the 1990s and early 2000s they could be found in many "antique" stores, etc. Well made general purpose knives, and inexpensive as you say.

Ian.

Ian · 27th April 2018, 10:01 PM

I'm bringing this one back up to highlight another common blade form seen on Ilocano knives. This type has a "double-clip" profile on the spine of the blade: the spine starts out straight from the guard for a few inches, then has a distinct concave curve, followed by another concave curve that extends to the tip. In addition, the knife shown below has many other characteristic Ilocano traits: a full tang hilt with the tang peined over a plate (*), the carved out "pinky notch," the multifaceted grip (usually made of horn), a small metal ferrule and cross guard (usually brass), and a small bulge adjacent to the guard on the cutting edge.

This "double-dip" or "double-clip" feature on the back of the blade is not unique to Ilocano knives. It is seen quite commonly, for example, on knives from old European carving sets. A similar blade is present on a 19th C. Sheffield carving set shown below for comparison.

This blade form is seen not just on small Ilocano knives but also on sword length blades, an example of which is also shown.

Ian.

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Treeslicer · 27th April 2018, 11:36 PM

Thanks for posting these, Ian!

I have 3 of these, one marked "Negrito Bolo" (21" blade of the s-curve type), one unmarked long and wide "Bowie", and the "Montana mine shaft" bolo (marked "PM" and "Philippines") I recently posted in another thread, which seems quite similar to the last example in your latest post. All are differentially hardened, with brass fittings, and faceted horn plate-peened hilts. Excellent bush knives, to say the least.

16th March 2017, 05:07 PM	#2
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,396	Some recently sold Ilocano/Negrito knives. The three on the left, with steel guards and ferrules, are all of recent manufacture--late 20th C. to the present. The largest one in the middle has a fist pommel, indicating that this style of hilt is still being made. The two on the right have traditional brass fittings and are post-WWII but older than the others. The one on the farthest right has an atypical stacked hilt and no ferrule--perhaps a modified or custom made piece. Ian. -------------------Attachments-------------------- . Attached Images Last edited by Ian; 16th March 2017 at 05:27 PM.

16th March 2017, 05:23 PM	#3
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,396	This one is interesting. Dated "1946," it is one of the earliest of this distinct style of knives which likely were produced near the old US Clark AFB and sold extensively to US servicemen. The pommel on this one appears to show a very early form of the tri-lobed form that is seen on so many of these knives. Unlike later versions, however, the tang emerges not from the center lobe but from the lobe at the back of the hilt. I have never seen this before. If you look at all the other pics in this post of the tri-lobed feature, the hilts have a curved tang that is peined over the end of the middle lobe. The knife shown here also has a particularly deep "pinky notch" that could only be achieved if the tang was straighter than later examples. Perhaps this knife represents a transition from an earlier style which just featured the "pinky notch" and a simpler style of pommel--such examples exist and are also reasonably common. These Negrito/Ilocano knives are found frequently online, and are still being made. I think one can appreciate how the "Negrito" styles evolved from previous Ilocano knives at the end of WWII, why the "Negrito" inscriptions and other decorations were added, and how features/materials on these distinctive knives have shifted over time. Ian Addendum: I have added pics of another similar knife with an older style of hilt, also dated on the blade "1946," to show how the first knife may have evolved from the earlier simple form into the tri-lobed pommel form. ---------------------Attachments--------------------- Attached Images Last edited by Ian; 19th March 2017 at 12:16 AM.

27th April 2018, 10:01 PM	#6
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,396	I'm bringing this one back up to highlight another common blade form seen on Ilocano knives. This type has a "double-clip" profile on the spine of the blade: the spine starts out straight from the guard for a few inches, then has a distinct concave curve, followed by another concave curve that extends to the tip. In addition, the knife shown below has many other characteristic Ilocano traits: a full tang hilt with the tang peined over a plate (*), the carved out "pinky notch," the multifaceted grip (usually made of horn), a small metal ferrule and cross guard (usually brass), and a small bulge adjacent to the guard on the cutting edge. This "double-dip" or "double-clip" feature on the back of the blade is not unique to Ilocano knives. It is seen quite commonly, for example, on knives from old European carving sets. A similar blade is present on a 19th C. Sheffield carving set shown below for comparison. This blade form is seen not just on small Ilocano knives but also on sword length blades, an example of which is also shown. Ian. . Attached Images

30th January 2017, 08:49 AM	#1
F. de Luzon Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Posts: 184	Very informative!

18th March 2017, 04:24 PM	#4
Nirghosa Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 119	Fun story: I was buying some of these in Cebu years ago and part of the seller's pitch was to do an edge on full power hack at the street pole. Blade was great, I was already in at $8 lol. Doubling back, there were a lot of marks on that pole.....

18th March 2017, 06:39 PM	#5
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,396	Hi nirghosa: Yes, these are still found in major tourist centers around the country. When I was there in the 1990s and early 2000s they could be found in many "antique" stores, etc. Well made general purpose knives, and inexpensive as you say. Ian.

27th April 2018, 11:36 PM	#7
Treeslicer Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 65	Thanks for posting these, Ian! I have 3 of these, one marked "Negrito Bolo" (21" blade of the s-curve type), one unmarked long and wide "Bowie", and the "Montana mine shaft" bolo (marked "PM" and "Philippines") I recently posted in another thread, which seems quite similar to the last example in your latest post. All are differentially hardened, with brass fittings, and faceted horn plate-peened hilts. Excellent bush knives, to say the least.