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[Fernando K]

Hello
I want to say that this is a piece for tourists, although the decor work is magnificent.
Affectionately. Fernando K

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

There is a pair of Algerian Pistols in The Queen Elizabeth 11 collection with coral and silver decoration for comparison and interest...as below...

Described as Quote" Flintlock pistol; octagonal/round steel barrel, chased with foliate scrolls, with two chased bands; wooden stock applied throughout with tear-shaped pieces of coral with engraved silver surrounds; silver mounts chased with foliate scrolls, pommel with bands of leaves, fluting, ropework.

Provenance;

Part of a set of guns and pistols given by the Dey of Algiers". Unquote.

[rickystl]

Hi Kubur.

WOW!! What a couple more close-up photos will produce.

Unfortunatly, I must agree with Fernando K. This appears to be a Tourist piece. You will probably find that both the lock and barrel are castings versus forgings. If you took the barrel off you will probably find there is no seperate breech plug. It is the most nicely decorated Tourist piece I have ever seen.

That said, I still wish I owned this piece. That it is a Tourist piece would be all the excuse I need to convert it into a shooting gun with a new barrel and utilizing one of my spare miquelet locks out of my collection. LOL I really like the stock decoration on this one.

Rick

[Kubur]

Originally Posted by rickystl

Hi Kubur.

WOW!! What a couple more close-up photos will produce.
It is the most nicely decorated Tourist piece I have ever seen.
That said, I still wish I owned this piece. That it is a Tourist piece would be all the excuse I need to convert it into a shooting gun with a new barrel and utilizing one of my spare miquelet locks out of my collection. LOL I really like the stock decoration on this one.

Rick

Hi Rick,
I sent to Fernando detailled explanations and he is right of course.
That is said but what is very disturbing is the fact that this pistol is even better in 'real' than on photographs. The decoration, the weight balance, the size, it's a nice piece so it would be difficult for me to leave it.
Please, look at this Algerian Moukala made in 1918 (the date in Gregoran calendar is engraved on the stock)...not mine unfortunately...

Best,
Kubur

[rickystl]

Originally Posted by Kubur

Hi Rick,
I sent to Fernando detailled explanations and he is right of course.
That is said but what is very disturbing is the fact that this pistol is even better in 'real' than on photographs. The decoration, the weight balance, the size, it's a nice piece so it would be difficult for me to leave it.
Please, look at this Algerian Moukala made in 1918 (the date in Gregoran calendar is engraved on the stock)...not mine unfortunately...

Best,
Kubur

Hi Kubur.

Well, I had to try. LOL

That Moukala is dated very late. The lock and barrel may be older and re-used to build this one. The barrel seems a bit shorter than most, but could be original.

Rick.

[BANDOOK]

HI KUBUR
THIS BELONGS TO A FRIEND WHO LIVES IN FRANCE,WAS FOR SALE SOMETIME BACK
MOROCCON OR ALGERIAN,LOVELY PISTOL
REGARDS RAJESH

[Fernando K]

Hi

I do not know why Argentina is said. I live in Argentina, and I assure you that in my country there was no factory or artisan capable of producing this pistol.

It is a European pistol, perhaps Belgian, to which the wooden hilt was changed or used to decorate the Marquis estillo.

I think it's a tourist piece.

Affectionately. Fernando K

[Kubur]

Originally Posted by BANDOOK

HI KUBUR
THIS BELONGS TO A FRIEND WHO LIVES IN FRANCE,WAS FOR SALE SOMETIME BACK
MOROCCON OR ALGERIAN,LOVELY PISTOL
REGARDS RAJESH

Hi Rajesh,
Yes you are right, it's the same style and probably the same workshop.
A very nice little pocket pistol.
Best wishes
Kubur

[rickystl]

Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi

There is a pair of Algerian Pistols in The Queen Elizabeth 11 collection with coral and silver decoration for comparison and interest...as below...

Described as Quote" Flintlock pistol; octagonal/round steel barrel, chased with foliate scrolls, with two chased bands; wooden stock applied throughout with tear-shaped pieces of coral with engraved silver surrounds; silver mounts chased with foliate scrolls, pommel with bands of leaves, fluting, ropework.

Provenance;

Part of a set of guns and pistols given by the Dey of Algiers". Unquote.

Hi Ibrahiim.

What a beautiful pair of pistols. Note the front of the ramrods being partially wraped in thin sheet silver (and sometimes brass). A trademark of Algerian built guns. You also see this done with the ramrods of the long guns.

Rick