Show us your Talismanic markings on keris blades

[Jean]

Hello Green,
From the pics I am wondering whether these markings are purposely made or just welding flaws?
Regards

[Jean]

Hello Green,
I attach pics of a Javanese blade with engravings partly inlaid with gold, the top motif is called pilulut.
Regards

[David]

Originally Posted by Jean

From the pics I am wondering whether these markings are purposely made or just welding flaws?

That was my impression as well. The groove down that center (what you call "anak sungai") may well be intentional, but that other gash in the blade surface looks more like a forging flaw to me.

[Green]

from what i understood and been told the mark was intentional... looks a bit awkward it is true...

Jean;

Do you know what is the meaning and purpose of those golden marks on your keris?

[David]

Originally Posted by Green

from what i understood and been told the mark was intentional... looks a bit awkward it is true...

Well, people do tend to tell us a lot of things in regards to keris that are not necessary true...though in the end belief seems to trump truth a lot of the time in these situations.

[Green]

David;

Belief attending to meaning of marks and other belief regarding the history and background of the keris is one thing and can be exteremely subjective.

but the marks on keris is a hard objective fact. If we can see it on the keris , it is certainly purposely made - for whatever reason. Marks are usually obvious (not always) and can not be mistaken from incidental defects to the blade.

[Green]

Here is another example of talismanic marking on my old pandai saras blade, which is not obvious at a cursory glance.

But if you put the blade at a certain angle in good light, you can see cross hatches on one side and parallel small hatches on the other side.

These are obviously made for whatever purposes that I am not sure of.

[David]

Originally Posted by Green

Here is another example of talismanic marking on my old pandai saras blade, which is not obvious at a cursory glance.

But if you put the blade at a certain angle in good light, you can see cross hatches on one side and parallel small hatches on the other side.

These are obviously made for whatever purposes that I am not sure of.

I'm sorry Green, but that just looks like tool markings to me. I'm not convinced at all that these markings have a talismanic intention.

[Jean]

Originally Posted by Green

Jean;

Do you know what is the meaning and purpose of those golden marks on your keris?

Hello Green,
The golden marks were recently made or refurbished I think but the engravings look original.
Regards

[A. G. Maisey]

I would need to examine the first blade under magnification to know what I was looking at.

[Green]

Mr Maisey.

i will try to get better pics when I get back home in a few days time...