Kris

DaveS · 28th December 2016, 02:16 AM

Chris: Two great looking twist-cores. You did really good. I think both would go late 1800s to very early 1900s. Can't do much better than that. Haven't seen you since the Pasadena Knife Show. That was more than a few years ago................Dave.

kai · 28th December 2016, 03:13 AM

Hello Chris,

Congrats, great score! (No idea how I missed this thread...)

I'm not sure if I would have changed the hilt - I believe this kris originally had 2 clamps. The "new" hilt with silver braiding is very nice though!

Regards,
Kai

Ian · 28th December 2016, 04:08 AM

Very nice kris.

The blade looks Maranao in origin with an unusual laminated pattern. The replaced hilt looks more Sulu than Maranao, while the scabbard looks very new and also Sulu in style. The materials used for the scabbard are non-traditional in a number of ways, with the use of large headed nails and a rattan wrap that I have trouble placing.

Ian.

CCUAL · 28th December 2016, 06:43 AM

Hello Dave, long time no see and talk, I might drop by at the Pasadena knife show this year. I would like to show you a large twistcore kris that I acquired yrs back. Send my regards to Lonna.

Ian, I might be wrong but thru my years of collecting moro weapons and moro weapons only, I have seen several kinds of scabbards with small and large nails, and the used of rattan wraps but styles varies this style I've seen other wise I won't use. The scabbard came with large head nails not newly added but original to it. It doesn't look old now because I had them polished, I also had an old moro weapon plaque with same type of nails use. You can also search thru this forums archive you will see a few scabbards with the same features. The only unusual thing probably added was the braided rattan wraps and the red cloth.

Kai, you're right, there might had been a second clamp. I was planning to add two clamps but I still remember how costly this things are. The last two clamps I had custom made cost me half a grand.

Thanks for the compliment Sajen.

CCUAL · 10th May 2018, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian

Very nice kris.

The materials used for the scabbard are non-traditional in a number of ways, with the use of large headed nails and a rattan wrap that I have trouble placing.

Ian.

large nails were original, i just had to polish them.., i think i can find another kris scabbard with the same wrap here somewhere.

CCUAL · 11th May 2018, 12:07 AM

moro trad wrap.

Battara · 11th May 2018, 10:30 PM

THe top picture is from Ashokaarts and is a kris from Tawi-Tawi

CCUAL · 29th December 2016, 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveS

Chris: Two great looking twist-cores. You did really good. I think both would go late 1800s to very early 1900s. Can't do much better than that. Haven't seen you since the Pasadena Knife Show. That was more than a few years ago................Dave.

Hey Dave, long time no see. I was going to see you guys at the Militaria antique show in Pomona at one time but I missed the opportunity. Hopefully this year I can drop by at the Pasadena knife show. Pls. bring your twistcore krises. ;o) Send my regards to Lonna.

11th May 2018, 12:07 AM	#6
CCUAL Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 76	moro trad wrap. Attached Images

28th December 2016, 02:16 AM	#1
DaveS Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 327	Chris: Two great looking twist-cores. You did really good. I think both would go late 1800s to very early 1900s. Can't do much better than that. Haven't seen you since the Pasadena Knife Show. That was more than a few years ago................Dave.

28th December 2016, 03:13 AM	#2
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Hello Chris, Congrats, great score! (No idea how I missed this thread...) I'm not sure if I would have changed the hilt - I believe this kris originally had 2 clamps. The "new" hilt with silver braiding is very nice though! Regards, Kai

28th December 2016, 04:08 AM	#3
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,360	Very nice kris. The blade looks Maranao in origin with an unusual laminated pattern. The replaced hilt looks more Sulu than Maranao, while the scabbard looks very new and also Sulu in style. The materials used for the scabbard are non-traditional in a number of ways, with the use of large headed nails and a rattan wrap that I have trouble placing. Ian.

28th December 2016, 06:43 AM	#4
CCUAL Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 76	Hello Dave, long time no see and talk, I might drop by at the Pasadena knife show this year. I would like to show you a large twistcore kris that I acquired yrs back. Send my regards to Lonna. Ian, I might be wrong but thru my years of collecting moro weapons and moro weapons only, I have seen several kinds of scabbards with small and large nails, and the used of rattan wraps but styles varies this style I've seen other wise I won't use. The scabbard came with large head nails not newly added but original to it. It doesn't look old now because I had them polished, I also had an old moro weapon plaque with same type of nails use. You can also search thru this forums archive you will see a few scabbards with the same features. The only unusual thing probably added was the braided rattan wraps and the red cloth. Kai, you're right, there might had been a second clamp. I was planning to add two clamps but I still remember how costly this things are. The last two clamps I had custom made cost me half a grand. Thanks for the compliment Sajen.

11th May 2018, 10:30 PM	#7
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,270	THe top picture is from Ashokaarts and is a kris from Tawi-Tawi