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Old 7th October 2016, 01:44 PM   #1
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According to Djelenga who was a respected kris collector & book author from Lombok, these hilts were used by young people, especially priests and nobles. The warriors apparently used the large cekah solas hilts (see pic) which makes sense as the grip is excellent.
I have also heard that the cekah solas hilts were favored by warriors, but heard that same for these hair-wrapped hilts as well. Not a lot has been written on such matters beyond Djelenga. While i don't dismiss his opinion this hilt style seems an odd one for nobles.
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Old 8th October 2016, 07:08 AM   #2
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Thanks again, gentlemen.
The similar hilt shown is very interesting.
The uwer looks to be all metal, without gems?
What kind of uwer would be appropriate for my keris?

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Old 8th October 2016, 08:21 AM   #3
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Taube, I have seen many more older Balinese keris, especially relatively simple old keris, without uwer than I have seen with uwer, as for "gems" are these really requisite in a very simple Sudra keris such as this one?

I rather think not.

I would be inclined to leave this keris exactly as it is.

Yeah, I know I'm swimming against the tide, but sometimes bling is just simply out of place.
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Old 8th October 2016, 05:02 PM   #4
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I am inclined to agree with Alan here. Too much bling ("gems") would certainly seem out of place to me. A simple silver uwer might be more appropriate, though does not really seem necessary for this piece. If you were to decide to place one on this keris i also don't think seeking out a much more expensive antique uwer makes any difference. What you certainly don't want is something that looks cheaply made as some of the new ones on the market do, but many new users are well crafted and look just fine.
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Old 9th October 2016, 06:36 PM   #5
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Here's mine with a similar Loncengan ukiran.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=20845
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Taube, I have seen many more older Balinese keris, especially relatively simple old keris, without uwer than I have seen with uwer, as for "gems" are these really requisite in a very simple Sudra keris such as this one?

I rather think not.

I would be inclined to leave this keris exactly as it is.

Yeah, I know I'm swimming against the tide, but sometimes bling is just simply out of place.
I fully agree with Alan on this uwer issue !

Ps, the blade appears to have most of its Original finish. just preserve it as it is.

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