keris good and bad?

rasdan · 27th September 2016, 11:49 AM

Hi Cal, welcome to the keris world. Just beware of the Dunning-Kruger Effect in your journey..

NotoriousCal · 27th September 2016, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by rasdan

Hi Cal, welcome to the keris world. Just beware of the Dunning-Kruger Effect in your journey..

Lol!

VANDOO · 27th September 2016, 04:51 PM

TO REALLY KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING IN MOST FIELDS OF COLLECTING. ESPECIALLY WITH KERIS YOU HAVE TO STAY FOCUSED AND STUDY LONG. I HAVE TOO MANY INTERESTS THAT RANGE THE FULL SPECTRUM OF COLLECTING SO WILL NEVER BECOME COMPETENT IN KERIS KNOWLEDGE. JUST A JACK OF ALL TRADES AND MASTER OF NONE. SO I JUST COLLECT WHAT I LIKE AND CAN AFFORD. ONE CAN TRUST THAT YOU HAVE GOOD TASTE IN KERIS OR TO BE MORE SAFE AND BUY FROM SOMEONE WHO HAS DEVOTED HIS TIME TO LEARNING ABOUT KERIS. THEN YOU KNOW YOU WILL BE GETTING SOMETHING OF QUALITY NEW OR OLD AND HAVE IT PROPERLY IDENTIFIED FOR YOU. KERIS COLLECTING IS A CHALLENGING FIELD OF STUDY FOR THOSE WHO ARE DETERMINED TO LEARN AND THE CHART ABOVE SUMS IT UP WELL. THE MAIN THING IS TO ENJOY WHILE YOU LEARN AND COLLECT, LIFE IS TOO SHORT TO STRUGGLE WITH SOMETHING YOU DO NOT ENJOY.

Green · 28th September 2016, 04:55 PM

Based on Rasdan's Dunning-Kruger effect graph, i can safely say that i'm currently at the 'valley of despair' phase. not least because the money is running out just when i think i can narrow my focus and be a bit more eclectic (?) in my purchases.

one of the best ways i find to increase knowledge in arts/paintings and antiques is to go to museums and see lot and lots of items so that i can have a good feel of what is good and what standard to base on .

except that in case of keris, at least in malaysia i feel museums are not the best place to see the best specimens... the best are often in the hands of collectors rather than in museums...

David · 28th September 2016, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Green

except that in case of keris, at least in malaysia i feel museums are not the best place to see the best specimens... the best are often in the hands of collectors rather than in museums...

And while i don't want to indict ALL museums, that may be for the best as i see far too many museums who mislabel keris and have absolutely no idea how to maintain them physically, leaving them to rust away. There are also a number of museums who have keris in their collections that they never display.

27th September 2016, 11:49 AM	#1
rasdan Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 369	Hi Cal, welcome to the keris world. Just beware of the Dunning-Kruger Effect in your journey.. Attached Images

27th September 2016, 04:51 PM	#3
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	TO REALLY KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING IN MOST FIELDS OF COLLECTING. ESPECIALLY WITH KERIS YOU HAVE TO STAY FOCUSED AND STUDY LONG. I HAVE TOO MANY INTERESTS THAT RANGE THE FULL SPECTRUM OF COLLECTING SO WILL NEVER BECOME COMPETENT IN KERIS KNOWLEDGE. JUST A JACK OF ALL TRADES AND MASTER OF NONE. SO I JUST COLLECT WHAT I LIKE AND CAN AFFORD. ONE CAN TRUST THAT YOU HAVE GOOD TASTE IN KERIS OR TO BE MORE SAFE AND BUY FROM SOMEONE WHO HAS DEVOTED HIS TIME TO LEARNING ABOUT KERIS. THEN YOU KNOW YOU WILL BE GETTING SOMETHING OF QUALITY NEW OR OLD AND HAVE IT PROPERLY IDENTIFIED FOR YOU. KERIS COLLECTING IS A CHALLENGING FIELD OF STUDY FOR THOSE WHO ARE DETERMINED TO LEARN AND THE CHART ABOVE SUMS IT UP WELL. THE MAIN THING IS TO ENJOY WHILE YOU LEARN AND COLLECT, LIFE IS TOO SHORT TO STRUGGLE WITH SOMETHING YOU DO NOT ENJOY.

28th September 2016, 04:55 PM	#4
Green Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Malaysia Posts: 323	Based on Rasdan's Dunning-Kruger effect graph, i can safely say that i'm currently at the 'valley of despair' phase. not least because the money is running out just when i think i can narrow my focus and be a bit more eclectic (?) in my purchases. one of the best ways i find to increase knowledge in arts/paintings and antiques is to go to museums and see lot and lots of items so that i can have a good feel of what is good and what standard to base on . except that in case of keris, at least in malaysia i feel museums are not the best place to see the best specimens... the best are often in the hands of collectors rather than in museums...