MOST DESIRED WAR CLUBS MID AND SOUTH AMERICA

VANDOO · 23rd September 2016, 05:04 PM

HERE IS ANOTHER FORM OF CLUB FROM THE REGION INCLUDING GUIANA. THERE IS MORE VARIATION IN THIS FORM OF CLUB THAN IN THE PREVIOUS HOUR GLASS SHAPED FORM I HAVE REFERRED TO AS MACANA.
#1., #2. & #3. AN EXAMPLE SAID TO BE FROM THE 18TH. CENTURY
#4. & #5. GUIANA / NORTH BRAZIL 25.5 X 4 INCHES
#6. & #7. & #11. PICTURES IF A COLLECTION OF THIS FORM OF CLUB FROM TIM'S POST AN AMAZON CLUBS SEE FIRST LINK IN THIS POST FOR MORE INFORMATION.
#8., #9.,#10 . MAQUIRITARE TRIBE 29 3/4 X 7 3/4 INCHES, UPPER CAURA RIVER, SOUTH VENEZUELA,COLLECTED BY MISSIONARIES 1950
#12. YEKUANA TRIBE, VENEZUELA 30 INCHES LONG. THIS IS A MORE RECENT CLUB OF THIS TYPE. NOT SURE IF VENEZUELA IS ITS ORIGIN BUT IT WAS LISTED AS SUCH.

BELOW IS A HELPFUL QUOTE FROM THE POST COVERING THE EXCEPTIONAL COLLECTION OF THESE FORMS OF CLUBS.

The hour-glass ones, you mean the Aputu?

They're mainly from the Carib and Arawak tribes. Caribs including island Carib, Kali'na, Ye'kwana, etc. and the related Makushi and other groups. The whole Guianas region had these clubs (French Guinana, Suriname, and Guyana).

I'm not sure about carvings or painting or designs denoting rank or tribal affiliation but I do know in more recent times there have been ones of poorer quality for tourism, or smaller seemingly less combat effective ones probably for dance... but all the really old ones seem at least 15-16" or a little more and made of quality hardwoods.

VANDOO · 25th September 2016, 01:05 AM

#1. TRIBES MAN FROM BRITISH GUIANA
#2. THRU #8 KAYAPO TRIBE BRAZIL
#9. KAYAPO CLUB 1.35 METERS LONG, GUYANA, FLUTED FORM RATHER THAN THE USUAL SMOOTH FORM.
#10. KAYAPO FLUTED POMMEL SMOOTH SHAFT AND STRIKING END.
#11. KAYAPO OR TXUKAHANAI TRIBE, COLLECTED 1970, 114 X 10.2 CM.
#12. KAYAPO CLUB

VANDOO · 25th September 2016, 01:34 AM

#1. KAYAPO OR XIKRIN CIRCA 1970 156 X 6.5 CM. BRAZIL
#2., #3. & #4. KAYAPO OR KARAJA CLUB, 41.5 INCHES LONG NORTH BRAZIL
#5. KAYAPO CLUB VARIATIONS WITH ONE XERTE CLUB FROM TIM'S COLLECTION.
#6. SHOWS THE KAYAPO VARIATION SIMILAR IN FORM TO THE SHIPIBO CLUB END.
#7. PICTURE OF TIM'S XAVANTE CLUB.

VANDOO · 29th September 2016, 07:09 AM

A FEW MORE KAYAPO CLUBS. THEY ARE FROM TIM'S COLLECTION AND SHOW VARIOUS FORMS AS WELL AS DIFFERENT WOVEN FIBER DESIGNS. THESE AND MANY OTHER EXAMPLES CAN BE SEEN IN TIM'S ORIGINAL POST. THIS POST IS TO BRING MORE ORDER AND PUT DIFFERENT CATEGORY'S AND TRIBAL GROUPS TOGETHER SEPARATELY FOR EASIER ACCESS.

VANDOO · 29th September 2016, 09:14 PM

KARAJA TRIBE GUIANA AND BRAZIL
#1. 20.5 INCH BRAZIL AMAZON COLLECTED 9/17/2007
#2., #3., #4. KARAJA BRAZIL AMAZON, 24 INCHES LONG
#5. KARAJA, BRAZIL CIRCA 1800'S 132 X 22.5 CM.
#6. KARAJA, BRAZIL, 140 X 7 CM. SIRCA 1800'S
#7. KARAJA CIRCA 1800'S BRAZIL
#8. KARAJA,BRAZIL
#9. KARAJA, BRAZIL
#10. KARAJA , BRAZIL CIRCA 1800'S 98 CM. LONG

VARIATIONS OF THE PATTERNS FOUND IN THE WOVEN FIBER GRIPS ON SOUTH
AMERICAN CLUBS
#11. BRAZIL, 98 CM LONG IDENTIFIED AS GUAJAJARA TRIBE MAY BE PRONUNCIATION OF KARAJA TRIBE OR A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TRIBE?. MODERN CORD USED FOR WRAP NOT NATURAL FIBERS, RED PAU WOOD.
#12. VARIATION OF AMAZON FIBER WRAP.

VANDOO · 29th September 2016, 10:08 PM

MORE CLUBS AND VARIATIONS OF PATTERNS IN FIBER WRAPS.
#1. AMAZON FIBER WRAP
#2. KAYABI TRIBE CLUB
#3. KAYABI TRIBESMAN WITH CLUB.
#4. IKPENG TRIBE CLUB
#5. YEKUANA TRIBE 2 PRONG DAGGER.
#6. CLUBS VARIOUS WOVEN PATTERNS KORUBO
#7. VARIOUS SOUTH AMERICAN CLUBS WOVEN PATTERNS
#8. TAPIRAPE TRIBE, GUYANA, PAU WOOD
#9. HIXKARYANA TRIBE SIMPLE WHITE COTTON CORD WITH NO PATTERN
#10. #11., & #12. UNKNOWN CLUB 30 INCHES LONG WITH FUR ATTACHED.

VANDOO · 14th December 2016, 10:40 PM

ANOTHER INTERESTING REPLICA VARIATION OF A MACUAHUITL CLUB WITH HORSE HAIR AT GRIP.

23rd September 2016, 05:04 PM	#1
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	HERE IS ANOTHER FORM OF CLUB FROM THE REGION INCLUDING GUIANA. THERE IS MORE VARIATION IN THIS FORM OF CLUB THAN IN THE PREVIOUS HOUR GLASS SHAPED FORM I HAVE REFERRED TO AS MACANA. #1., #2. & #3. AN EXAMPLE SAID TO BE FROM THE 18TH. CENTURY #4. & #5. GUIANA / NORTH BRAZIL 25.5 X 4 INCHES #6. & #7. & #11. PICTURES IF A COLLECTION OF THIS FORM OF CLUB FROM TIM'S POST AN AMAZON CLUBS SEE FIRST LINK IN THIS POST FOR MORE INFORMATION. #8., #9.,#10 . MAQUIRITARE TRIBE 29 3/4 X 7 3/4 INCHES, UPPER CAURA RIVER, SOUTH VENEZUELA,COLLECTED BY MISSIONARIES 1950 #12. YEKUANA TRIBE, VENEZUELA 30 INCHES LONG. THIS IS A MORE RECENT CLUB OF THIS TYPE. NOT SURE IF VENEZUELA IS ITS ORIGIN BUT IT WAS LISTED AS SUCH. BELOW IS A HELPFUL QUOTE FROM THE POST COVERING THE EXCEPTIONAL COLLECTION OF THESE FORMS OF CLUBS. The hour-glass ones, you mean the Aputu? They're mainly from the Carib and Arawak tribes. Caribs including island Carib, Kali'na, Ye'kwana, etc. and the related Makushi and other groups. The whole Guianas region had these clubs (French Guinana, Suriname, and Guyana). I'm not sure about carvings or painting or designs denoting rank or tribal affiliation but I do know in more recent times there have been ones of poorer quality for tourism, or smaller seemingly less combat effective ones probably for dance... but all the really old ones seem at least 15-16" or a little more and made of quality hardwoods. Attached Images Last edited by VANDOO; 23rd September 2016 at 10:29 PM.

25th September 2016, 01:05 AM	#2
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	#1. TRIBES MAN FROM BRITISH GUIANA #2. THRU #8 KAYAPO TRIBE BRAZIL #9. KAYAPO CLUB 1.35 METERS LONG, GUYANA, FLUTED FORM RATHER THAN THE USUAL SMOOTH FORM. #10. KAYAPO FLUTED POMMEL SMOOTH SHAFT AND STRIKING END. #11. KAYAPO OR TXUKAHANAI TRIBE, COLLECTED 1970, 114 X 10.2 CM. #12. KAYAPO CLUB Attached Images Last edited by VANDOO; 25th September 2016 at 01:25 AM.

25th September 2016, 01:34 AM	#3
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	#1. KAYAPO OR XIKRIN CIRCA 1970 156 X 6.5 CM. BRAZIL #2., #3. & #4. KAYAPO OR KARAJA CLUB, 41.5 INCHES LONG NORTH BRAZIL #5. KAYAPO CLUB VARIATIONS WITH ONE XERTE CLUB FROM TIM'S COLLECTION. #6. SHOWS THE KAYAPO VARIATION SIMILAR IN FORM TO THE SHIPIBO CLUB END. #7. PICTURE OF TIM'S XAVANTE CLUB. Attached Images

29th September 2016, 07:09 AM	#4
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	A FEW MORE KAYAPO CLUBS. THEY ARE FROM TIM'S COLLECTION AND SHOW VARIOUS FORMS AS WELL AS DIFFERENT WOVEN FIBER DESIGNS. THESE AND MANY OTHER EXAMPLES CAN BE SEEN IN TIM'S ORIGINAL POST. THIS POST IS TO BRING MORE ORDER AND PUT DIFFERENT CATEGORY'S AND TRIBAL GROUPS TOGETHER SEPARATELY FOR EASIER ACCESS. Attached Images

29th September 2016, 09:14 PM	#5
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	KARAJA TRIBE GUIANA AND BRAZIL #1. 20.5 INCH BRAZIL AMAZON COLLECTED 9/17/2007 #2., #3., #4. KARAJA BRAZIL AMAZON, 24 INCHES LONG #5. KARAJA, BRAZIL CIRCA 1800'S 132 X 22.5 CM. #6. KARAJA, BRAZIL, 140 X 7 CM. SIRCA 1800'S #7. KARAJA CIRCA 1800'S BRAZIL #8. KARAJA,BRAZIL #9. KARAJA, BRAZIL #10. KARAJA , BRAZIL CIRCA 1800'S 98 CM. LONG VARIATIONS OF THE PATTERNS FOUND IN THE WOVEN FIBER GRIPS ON SOUTH AMERICAN CLUBS #11. BRAZIL, 98 CM LONG IDENTIFIED AS GUAJAJARA TRIBE MAY BE PRONUNCIATION OF KARAJA TRIBE OR A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TRIBE?. MODERN CORD USED FOR WRAP NOT NATURAL FIBERS, RED PAU WOOD. #12. VARIATION OF AMAZON FIBER WRAP. Attached Images Last edited by VANDOO; 29th September 2016 at 09:51 PM.

29th September 2016, 10:08 PM	#6
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	MORE CLUBS AND VARIATIONS OF PATTERNS IN FIBER WRAPS. #1. AMAZON FIBER WRAP #2. KAYABI TRIBE CLUB #3. KAYABI TRIBESMAN WITH CLUB. #4. IKPENG TRIBE CLUB #5. YEKUANA TRIBE 2 PRONG DAGGER. #6. CLUBS VARIOUS WOVEN PATTERNS KORUBO #7. VARIOUS SOUTH AMERICAN CLUBS WOVEN PATTERNS #8. TAPIRAPE TRIBE, GUYANA, PAU WOOD #9. HIXKARYANA TRIBE SIMPLE WHITE COTTON CORD WITH NO PATTERN #10. #11., & #12. UNKNOWN CLUB 30 INCHES LONG WITH FUR ATTACHED. Attached Images

14th December 2016, 10:40 PM	#7
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	ANOTHER INTERESTING REPLICA VARIATION OF A MACUAHUITL CLUB WITH HORSE HAIR AT GRIP. Attached Images