MOST DESIRED WAR CLUBS MID AND SOUTH AMERICA

VANDOO · 11th September 2016, 09:48 PM

VARIOUS EXAMPLES OF MODERN MACUAHUCTL.
#1. CEREMONIAL UNUSUAL FORM OF BLADES, PAU WOOD, BLACK OBSIDIAN
#2. AZTEC WITH SKULL DECORATION
#4., TWO MOUNTED CROSSED
#3., #5 & #6. CENTRAL MEXICO 36 IN. LONG,BOCOTE WOOD AND MAHOGANY OBSIDIAN BLADES AN ESPECIALLY ATTRACTIVE EXAMPLE.
#7 THRU #10 VARIOUS NICE REPLICAS
#11. A SAWFISH FORM REPLICA, WOOD AND BONE
#12. REPLICA WITH NICE SNAKE FORM DESIGN

VANDOO · 11th September 2016, 10:32 PM

THE LAST OF THE MAQUAHUCTLS

#1. A VERY SPIKEY MODERN FORM
#2. & #3. A FORM OF SPEAR/CLUB WITH OBSIDIAN BLADES
#4.ONE WITH COPPER BLADES NONE WERE KNOWN, BUT COPPER WAS USED FOR JEWELRY AND OTHER USES
#5.THIS HAS FLINT KNIVES FORMING A LONG BLADE COULD BE A LONG KNIFE FOR BUTCHERING LARGE ANIMALS A CEREMONIAL FORM OR A WEAPON OR JUST FANTASY. NOT A MACUAHUCTL BUT SIMILAR AND THEY COULD HAVE BEEN MADE

Tim Simmons · 12th September 2016, 04:46 PM

sadly I did not record the source of this photo

VANDOO · 12th September 2016, 05:26 PM

WOW! THAT'S QUITE A SELECTION AND SEVERAL FORMS I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH. PERHAPS THE COLLECTOR WILL SEE IT AND PROVIDE US WITH SOME INFORMATION. UNTIL THEN I WILL JUST MUDDLE ALONG WITH THIS REFERENCE AS BEST AS I CAN.

FILL FREE TO ADD ANYTHING YOU HAVE ALONG THE WAY.

VANDOO · 12th September 2016, 06:04 PM

SHIPIBO-CONIBO TRIBE CLUBS. IN THE PAST THEY WERE TWO RELATED TRIBES THE SHIPIBO LIVING IN THE RAIN FOREST AND HUNTING AND THE CONIBO LIVING NEAR WATER AND FISHING. THE TWO TRIBES ARE COMBINED TODAY AND KNOWN BY BOTH NAMES. THERE IS A LARGE NUMBER AROUND IQUITOS PERU AND ALONG THE UCAYALI RIVER. SOME GROUPS HAVE RANGED FROM BRAZIL TO ECUADOR AS WELL. THE WOMEN DO THE COMPLICATED DESIGNS WHICH REPRESENT SEVERAL BASIC PATTERNS THE SPIRIT OF THE RAIN FOREST, GREAT SERPENT (ANACONDA)AND SPIRITUAL MATTERS. THE DESIGNS ARE GEOMETRIC BUT CAN BE CHANTED OR WHISTLED AS MUSIC AS WELL. THE CLUBS OFTEN HAVE SUCH A DESIGN ON THE BLADE. I READ THAT THE MAN CHOOSES THE DESIGN HE WANTS AND THE WOMEN PUT THE DESIGN ON THE CLUB. A INTERESTING TRIBE WITH A LONG HISTORY.
#1. THRU #5. A OLD SHIPIBO CLUB GOOD HEAVY HARD WOOD WITH NO DESIGN ON BLADE.
#6. & #7. CIRCA 1960, SHIPIBO/ CLUB WITH DESIGNS ON BOTH SIDES OF BLADE. 45.5 INCHES LONG, 5.5 IN. WIDE AT TIP. UCAYALI RIVER AREA PERU. LIGHT WEIGHT SOFT WOOD NATURAL FIBER AND PIGMENTS.
#8., #9. & #10. SMALLER MORE MODERN FORM SHIPIBO CLUB. 43 CM. X 11 CM. WITH COLORFUL CORD WRAP CIRCA 1970 SAID TO BE FROM GUYANA VERY WELL MADE.
#11. SHIPIBO CLUB CIRCA 1970 ,PERU 21 INCH. LONG
#12. SHIPIBO MEN IN TRADITIONAL CEREMONIAL ATTIRE WITH SMALLER CLUBS.

Sajen · 12th September 2016, 08:18 PM

In this thread are shown a lot of very nice Amazon clubs: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ht=amazon+club

But maybe Tim will show us all his Amazon clubs in one picture.

Regards,
Detlef

VANDOO · 12th September 2016, 08:21 PM

#1. GOOD OLD EXAMPLE OF SHIPIBO CLUB FULL SIZE HEAVY HARD WOOD.
#2. OLD EXAMPLE 141 X 11 X 3 CM. CIRCA 1930, UCAYALI RIVER PERU, CALLED HUINO CLUB. SHIPIBO /KOMBO TRIBE. ALSO SPELLED CONIBO
#3. SHIPIBO SOME OF THE MANY PATTERNS USED.
#4.SHIPIBO GODS EYE, THE SHARP SPEAR LIKE POINT IS STUCK IN THE GROUND OUTSIDE A HUT WHERE A NEWBORN BABY OR SICK PERSON IS TO KEEP OUT EVIL SPIRITS AND TO WARN PEOPLE NOT TO ENTER.
#5. TWO GODS EYE AND TWO BOWS WITH ARROWS CIRCA MID TO LATE
1960'S
#6. CLOSEUP OF TWO BOWS.
#7. & #8. SHIPIBOW SPEAR
#9. SHIPIBOW CANOE PADDLE
#10. SHIPIBOW POT MAKING WITH CLAY STIRRER IN CLAY
#11. SHIPIBOW DRAWING

VANDOO · 14th September 2016, 08:21 PM

HERE ARE THREE MORE PICTURES OF THE SHIPIBO TRIBE. PICTURE A CEREMONY WITH SHAMAN AND CLUBS AND TWO PICTURES OF DIFFERENT TRIBAL PATTERNS. ##1. SHAMAN'S CEREMONY #2. & #3. SHIPIBO DESIGNS

I MISSED A FEW PICTURES OF MEXICO SO WILL ADD THEM HERE.
#4. DRAWING OF AZTEC WARRIOR AND WEAPONS
#5. MODERN MACUAHUITL WITH ORANGE GLASS BLADES
#6., #7. & #8. INTERESTING DRAWINGS FROM OLD MEXICAN POST CARDS
#9.REPLICA OF OLD MISSISSIPPIAN SHARK TOOTH CLUB, SIMILAR IDEA LIKE MACUAHUITL

I HAVE ONLY FOUND DRAWINGS OF THE SOUTH AMERICAN ARMOR BUT HAVE FOUND SOME ARMOR FROM THE NORTH WEST COAST OF NORTH AMERICA THAT MAY HAVE SOME SIMILARITY TO WHAT WAS USED IN MID. AND SOUTH AMERICA.
#10. TLINGIT MAN IN WOODEN ARMOR VISOR NO HELMET.
#11. TLINGIT WOODEN HELMET AND VISOR, THE VISOR PROTECTS THE NECK THE HELMET PROTECTS THE SKULL.
#12. PRINT OF N.W. COAST ITEMS INCLUDING ARMOR.

11th September 2016, 09:48 PM	#1
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	VARIOUS EXAMPLES OF MODERN MACUAHUCTL. #1. CEREMONIAL UNUSUAL FORM OF BLADES, PAU WOOD, BLACK OBSIDIAN #2. AZTEC WITH SKULL DECORATION #4., TWO MOUNTED CROSSED #3., #5 & #6. CENTRAL MEXICO 36 IN. LONG,BOCOTE WOOD AND MAHOGANY OBSIDIAN BLADES AN ESPECIALLY ATTRACTIVE EXAMPLE. #7 THRU #10 VARIOUS NICE REPLICAS #11. A SAWFISH FORM REPLICA, WOOD AND BONE #12. REPLICA WITH NICE SNAKE FORM DESIGN Attached Images Last edited by VANDOO; 12th September 2016 at 05:31 PM.

11th September 2016, 10:32 PM	#2
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	THE LAST OF THE MAQUAHUCTLS #1. A VERY SPIKEY MODERN FORM #2. & #3. A FORM OF SPEAR/CLUB WITH OBSIDIAN BLADES #4.ONE WITH COPPER BLADES NONE WERE KNOWN, BUT COPPER WAS USED FOR JEWELRY AND OTHER USES #5.THIS HAS FLINT KNIVES FORMING A LONG BLADE COULD BE A LONG KNIFE FOR BUTCHERING LARGE ANIMALS A CEREMONIAL FORM OR A WEAPON OR JUST FANTASY. NOT A MACUAHUCTL BUT SIMILAR AND THEY COULD HAVE BEEN MADE Attached Images

12th September 2016, 04:46 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,842	sadly I did not record the source of this photo Attached Images

12th September 2016, 05:26 PM	#4
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	WOW! THAT'S QUITE A SELECTION AND SEVERAL FORMS I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH. PERHAPS THE COLLECTOR WILL SEE IT AND PROVIDE US WITH SOME INFORMATION. UNTIL THEN I WILL JUST MUDDLE ALONG WITH THIS REFERENCE AS BEST AS I CAN. FILL FREE TO ADD ANYTHING YOU HAVE ALONG THE WAY.

12th September 2016, 06:04 PM	#5
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	SHIPIBO-CONIBO TRIBE CLUBS. IN THE PAST THEY WERE TWO RELATED TRIBES THE SHIPIBO LIVING IN THE RAIN FOREST AND HUNTING AND THE CONIBO LIVING NEAR WATER AND FISHING. THE TWO TRIBES ARE COMBINED TODAY AND KNOWN BY BOTH NAMES. THERE IS A LARGE NUMBER AROUND IQUITOS PERU AND ALONG THE UCAYALI RIVER. SOME GROUPS HAVE RANGED FROM BRAZIL TO ECUADOR AS WELL. THE WOMEN DO THE COMPLICATED DESIGNS WHICH REPRESENT SEVERAL BASIC PATTERNS THE SPIRIT OF THE RAIN FOREST, GREAT SERPENT (ANACONDA)AND SPIRITUAL MATTERS. THE DESIGNS ARE GEOMETRIC BUT CAN BE CHANTED OR WHISTLED AS MUSIC AS WELL. THE CLUBS OFTEN HAVE SUCH A DESIGN ON THE BLADE. I READ THAT THE MAN CHOOSES THE DESIGN HE WANTS AND THE WOMEN PUT THE DESIGN ON THE CLUB. A INTERESTING TRIBE WITH A LONG HISTORY. #1. THRU #5. A OLD SHIPIBO CLUB GOOD HEAVY HARD WOOD WITH NO DESIGN ON BLADE. #6. & #7. CIRCA 1960, SHIPIBO/ CLUB WITH DESIGNS ON BOTH SIDES OF BLADE. 45.5 INCHES LONG, 5.5 IN. WIDE AT TIP. UCAYALI RIVER AREA PERU. LIGHT WEIGHT SOFT WOOD NATURAL FIBER AND PIGMENTS. #8., #9. & #10. SMALLER MORE MODERN FORM SHIPIBO CLUB. 43 CM. X 11 CM. WITH COLORFUL CORD WRAP CIRCA 1970 SAID TO BE FROM GUYANA VERY WELL MADE. #11. SHIPIBO CLUB CIRCA 1970 ,PERU 21 INCH. LONG #12. SHIPIBO MEN IN TRADITIONAL CEREMONIAL ATTIRE WITH SMALLER CLUBS. Attached Images Last edited by VANDOO; 12th September 2016 at 06:30 PM.

12th September 2016, 08:18 PM	#6
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,164	In this thread are shown a lot of very nice Amazon clubs: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ht=amazon+club But maybe Tim will show us all his Amazon clubs in one picture. Regards, Detlef

12th September 2016, 08:21 PM	#7
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	#1. GOOD OLD EXAMPLE OF SHIPIBO CLUB FULL SIZE HEAVY HARD WOOD. #2. OLD EXAMPLE 141 X 11 X 3 CM. CIRCA 1930, UCAYALI RIVER PERU, CALLED HUINO CLUB. SHIPIBO /KOMBO TRIBE. ALSO SPELLED CONIBO #3. SHIPIBO SOME OF THE MANY PATTERNS USED. #4.SHIPIBO GODS EYE, THE SHARP SPEAR LIKE POINT IS STUCK IN THE GROUND OUTSIDE A HUT WHERE A NEWBORN BABY OR SICK PERSON IS TO KEEP OUT EVIL SPIRITS AND TO WARN PEOPLE NOT TO ENTER. #5. TWO GODS EYE AND TWO BOWS WITH ARROWS CIRCA MID TO LATE 1960'S #6. CLOSEUP OF TWO BOWS. #7. & #8. SHIPIBOW SPEAR #9. SHIPIBOW CANOE PADDLE #10. SHIPIBOW POT MAKING WITH CLAY STIRRER IN CLAY #11. SHIPIBOW DRAWING Attached Images Last edited by VANDOO; 12th September 2016 at 08:35 PM.

14th September 2016, 08:21 PM	#8
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	HERE ARE THREE MORE PICTURES OF THE SHIPIBO TRIBE. PICTURE A CEREMONY WITH SHAMAN AND CLUBS AND TWO PICTURES OF DIFFERENT TRIBAL PATTERNS. ##1. SHAMAN'S CEREMONY #2. & #3. SHIPIBO DESIGNS I MISSED A FEW PICTURES OF MEXICO SO WILL ADD THEM HERE. #4. DRAWING OF AZTEC WARRIOR AND WEAPONS #5. MODERN MACUAHUITL WITH ORANGE GLASS BLADES #6., #7. & #8. INTERESTING DRAWINGS FROM OLD MEXICAN POST CARDS #9.REPLICA OF OLD MISSISSIPPIAN SHARK TOOTH CLUB, SIMILAR IDEA LIKE MACUAHUITL I HAVE ONLY FOUND DRAWINGS OF THE SOUTH AMERICAN ARMOR BUT HAVE FOUND SOME ARMOR FROM THE NORTH WEST COAST OF NORTH AMERICA THAT MAY HAVE SOME SIMILARITY TO WHAT WAS USED IN MID. AND SOUTH AMERICA. #10. TLINGIT MAN IN WOODEN ARMOR VISOR NO HELMET. #11. TLINGIT WOODEN HELMET AND VISOR, THE VISOR PROTECTS THE NECK THE HELMET PROTECTS THE SKULL. #12. PRINT OF N.W. COAST ITEMS INCLUDING ARMOR. Attached Images Last edited by VANDOO; 14th September 2016 at 08:48 PM.