Shilluk club

colin henshaw · 27th July 2016, 12:12 PM

Here is an old image of Shilluk warriors for consideration. They appear to be holding "torpedo-shape" clubs, similar to the type posted by Tim. The warrior on the right is also holding a "mushroom-head" club, a pattern more usually associated with the Shilluk...

Wodimi · 28th July 2016, 11:54 PM

interesting, but also strange. Maybe made by a studio photographer in Khartoum, for sure not in a Shilluk village, because of the brick wall in the background.

kronckew · 29th July 2016, 09:54 AM

the curved bottom of the white wall section above the bricks looks distinctive. possibly someone will recognise it. looks like it should be a big white circle potentially with writing.

the middle man's hat reminds me of a popular kids toy. the other two look like they were shot from above with a large suction cup headed arrow. i wouldn't be wearing those. to each his own tho. cool spears...

Tim Simmons · 29th July 2016, 05:18 PM

I think that is just a photographers white sheet back drop. I would be interested, has anybody got information on the relations of Southern Sudan kingdoms and the Mahdi rebellion. In a brief search on the internet It appears that the Shilluk resisted the Mahdist Islam. However we have seen Mahdi Islam influenced weapons from as far away as the Congo.

colin henshaw · 2nd August 2016, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

I think that is just a photographers white sheet back drop. I would be interested, has anybody got information on the relations of Southern Sudan kingdoms and the Mahdi rebellion. In a brief search on the internet It appears that the Shilluk resisted the Mahdist Islam. However we have seen Mahdi Islam influenced weapons from as far away as the Congo.

Rudolph Slatin (a captive of the Mahdists for several years), mentions this subject in his book "Fire and Sword in the Sudan", 1896. It seems the Mahdists at first left the Shilluks and Dinkas unmolested, however the territory of the Shilluks was later invaded and its people harshly subjugated. I attach some relevant extracts from the book.

I believe that even before the Mahdist regime, the Shilluk people had been the subject of slaving raids from the north.

Rumpel · 3rd August 2016, 12:09 PM

Worth noting that the Shilluk still exist, and still practise kingship along traditional lines.

There's some interesting footage here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2BPF58HD4A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC43GCGIneM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHBqUHSAJng

Tim Simmons · 3rd August 2016, 06:59 PM

Thanks for all contributions. This is intesting, it seems the Turks are the first to have a disruptive hand in Shilluk Land.

http://www.haujournal.org/index.php/...au1.1.016/1112

27th July 2016, 12:12 PM	#1
colin henshaw Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,429	Here is an old image of Shilluk warriors for consideration. They appear to be holding "torpedo-shape" clubs, similar to the type posted by Tim. The warrior on the right is also holding a "mushroom-head" club, a pattern more usually associated with the Shilluk... Attached Images

29th July 2016, 09:54 AM	#3
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,224	the curved bottom of the white wall section above the bricks looks distinctive. possibly someone will recognise it. looks like it should be a big white circle potentially with writing. the middle man's hat reminds me of a popular kids toy. the other two look like they were shot from above with a large suction cup headed arrow. i wouldn't be wearing those. to each his own tho. cool spears... Attached Images Last edited by kronckew; 29th July 2016 at 10:06 AM.

28th July 2016, 11:54 PM	#2
Wodimi Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 75	interesting, but also strange. Maybe made by a studio photographer in Khartoum, for sure not in a Shilluk village, because of the brick wall in the background.

29th July 2016, 05:18 PM	#4
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,854	I think that is just a photographers white sheet back drop. I would be interested, has anybody got information on the relations of Southern Sudan kingdoms and the Mahdi rebellion. In a brief search on the internet It appears that the Shilluk resisted the Mahdist Islam. However we have seen Mahdi Islam influenced weapons from as far away as the Congo.

3rd August 2016, 12:09 PM	#6
Rumpel Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 63	Worth noting that the Shilluk still exist, and still practise kingship along traditional lines. There's some interesting footage here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2BPF58HD4A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC43GCGIneM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHBqUHSAJng

3rd August 2016, 06:59 PM	#7
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,854	Thanks for all contributions. This is intesting, it seems the Turks are the first to have a disruptive hand in Shilluk Land. http://www.haujournal.org/index.php/...au1.1.016/1112