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20th July 2016, 06:15 AM
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More pictures of the sword for analysis.
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21st July 2016, 04:30 AM
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Posting at Lee's request, some links to interesting comments from Peter Johnsson re. fake swords.
Viking sword sold for £32,000, suggested to be fake. http://myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?p=170055#170055 Another, sold for £16,000. Inlaid and pattern-welded, most likely fake. http://myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?p=289670#289670 Comment re. inlay that has "fallen out". http://myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?p=289741#289741 Second-hand info, but passed on by a reliable forum member: XIV.6 in Records is most likely fake. http://myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?p=304092#304092 Probable fake with nicks to the blade added to suggest battle damage. https://www.facebook.com/myArmoury/p...type=3&theater |
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21st July 2016, 08:32 AM
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Original european swords of this period are allways or at least in most cases made from laminated steel, made from refined carbonized wrought iron. I'm unsure but if the area I highlighted in the picture show traces of lamination, the sword is probably authentic. Roland |
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21st July 2016, 10:49 AM
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I definitely have no experise in spotting fakes but I noticed something strange.
It took a lot of skill and experise for a Middle Age swordsmith to make such a sword. It was by no means a small feat to forge a sword blade. So how comes that a skilled swordsmith that can forge a sword blade and give it a perfect shape, cannot forge a reasonably round pommel?! Also maybe just an impression... but isn't the tang a bit short in relation to the sizes of the sword, crossguard and pommel?! 
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22nd July 2016, 03:08 AM
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12th August 2016, 10:28 PM
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Now here is a third example of a sword with the odd, inset pommel decorations. This one was confiscated after being put up for auction illegally in Poland, and the would-be seller was arrested. The seller had "no explanation" of how the sword came into his possession...
The article says "preliminary assessments by archaeologists show it is original... probably from the 10th-12th centuries". This date range seems a bit off the mark, so that doesn't exactly inspire much confidence in the claim of authenticity... Altogether, a very suspicious set of coincidences... https://www.ebos.pl/wiadomosci/sredn...netowej_aukcji |
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14th August 2016, 06:46 PM
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Reventlov,
Very interesting information i have found some more pictures. http://www.policja.pl/pol/aktualnosci/18781,dok.html I'm curious to know the final statements from the polish experts Best Cerjak |
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14th August 2016, 07:44 PM
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I have found a more recent article that sheds more light on this matter... to cut a long story short, the three swords seized in Poland are definitely fake. http://www.newsweek.pl/polska/awantu...,3548,1,1.html It seems that the seller "Piotr P." is Peter Pajewski, the son of one Edward Pajewski who I have heard of before... a blacksmith who has a legitimate(?) side business producing aged reproduction swords. Piotr told the police that he had made the swords himself, but the police did not believe him and proceeded to announce to the media that they had recovered "national treasures". A blog post claims that Edward now boasts of the incident, taking it as praise for the quality of his work! http://paul-barford.blogspot.ca/2010...ord-sword.html I found another photo of probably the same sword on a Polish message board, and a photo of some similar swords in what looks like an album of Edward Pajewski's metalwork. Two of them look very much like your sword, I'm sorry to say.  http://odkrywca.pl/chcial-sprzedac-s...cz,620427.html http://kowale.eu/foto/picture.php?/90/category/5 |
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