Caucasian / Circassian percussion rifle?

[estcrh]

Originally Posted by rickystl

Yes, the break in the forearm would be worth repairing. And the lock may need some work while at it. My gunsmith would be great for this, but he is down with medical issues at the moment. And lives in New Hampshire. But Louisiana is a popular state for muzzle loading shooters, and I should be able to locate someone for you. I'll PM you after I check my sources.
I still agree with Oliver that your gun is Persian. That it was made as a percussion, likely dates the gun post 1850. The more Europen style trigger and guard show just a bit of Western influence. A very interesting gun and worth a repair.
Rick.

Rick, if by chance you do locate someone who could repair it in the proper manner I would appreciate it, even if in another state. As discussed in a previous thread, the Persian variety of matchlock, flintlock and percussion guns seem to have simply vanished from sight. I wanted to do a thread on them but its taken me months just to find a handful of images.

When the Persians started to equip their military with modern factory made guns the old ones seem to have been stripped down and the barrels sold off around the middle east, at least that is what seems to have happened as far as I can tell. At least with Ottoman guns there are a lot of remaining flintlocks but not so with the Persian guns, they must have done something with them or they would be turning up at auctions and in collections etc.

[rickystl]

Originally Posted by estcrh

Rick, if by chance you do locate someone who could repair it in the proper manner I would appreciate it, even if in another state. As discussed in a previous thread, the Persian variety of matchlock, flintlock and percussion guns seem to have simply vanished from sight. I wanted to do a thread on them but its taken me months just to find a handful of images.

When the Persians started to equip their military with modern factory made guns the old ones seem to have been stripped down and the barrels sold off around the middle east, at least that is what seems to have happened as far as I can tell. At least with Ottoman guns there are a lot of remaining flintlocks but not so with the Persian guns, they must have done something with them or they would be turning up at auctions and in collections etc.

Yes, I'll put the word out to my sources this weekend when I return from a business trip. My gunsmith would be perfect for this, but will be down for at least a couple more months. But there are other competent ones. I'll let you know soon.
Persian Long Guns: Yes, I remember that Thread. Your guess as to what happened to all these guns is as good as any. It's a real mystery.
Rick

[estcrh]

FIREARMS in Persia. This article surveys the history and production of various firearms and artillery in Persia from their introduction to the 19th century. Originally Published: December 15, 1999, by Rudi Matthee.

http://www.iranicaonline.org/article...arms-i-history

Professor Rudi Matthee: The History of Firearms in Persia, This article by Professor Rudi Matthee first appeared in the Encyclopedia Iranica on December 15, 1999. Professor Matthee’s article surveys the history and production of various firearms and artillery in Persia from their introduction to the 19th century.

http://kavehfarrokh.com/iranica/mili...rms-in-persia/



Lexicon of Arms and Armor from Iran by Dr. Manouchehr Moshtagh Khorasani, 2010

http://kavehfarrokh.com/book-review/5770/

[estcrh]

I found this one awhile ago, it was located in Japan...Persian??

[Oliver Pinchot]

Yes, Persian. The bipod is after market, probably Afghan.
There was a strong European presence there during the first half of the 19th century. British, French, and to a lesser degree, Russian influence had its effect on the Qajars. Many flint longarms seem to have been converted to percussion at that time.

[estcrh]

Originally Posted by Oliver Pinchot

Yes, Persian. The bipod is after market, probably Afghan.
There was a strong European presence there during the first half of the 19th century. British, French, and to a lesser degree, Russian influence had its effect on the Qajars. Many flint longarms seem to have been converted to percussion at that time.

Thanks Oliver, one more for reference.