Ivory or bone ?

[asomotif]

Ivorine, as used on kitchenknifes, can look very much like this.
Sometimes including the lines.
However, I think that ivorine would not crack like this handle

Best regards,
Willem

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Originally Posted by asomotif

Ivorine, as used on kitchenknifes, can look very much like this.
Sometimes including the lines.
However, I think that ivorine would not crack like this handle

Best regards,
Willem

I looked at two replacement substances for Ivory... Ivorine which was invented in 1899 thus too late for this..and Bakelite also a later invention... I have to say I think Ivory in this case... I cannot see the full stamps thus unable to say who the maker may be ...

[thinreadline]

Originally Posted by Ibrahiim al Balooshi

I looked at two replacement substances for Ivory... Ivorine which was invented in 1899 thus too late for this..and Bakelite also a later invention... I have to say I think Ivory in this case... I cannot see the full stamps thus unable to say who the maker may be ...

Salaams Ibrahiim , the maker is Henry Wigful of Sheffield

[Helleri]

I don't think this is ivory. Some translucence along the edges of cracks, dings, and scratches causes ivory to typically show hotter coloration there (red and orange, not black as is shown here). I think the grain is also too strait (with no intersection) and uninterrupted. Have you done the rub test?

[VANDERNOTTE]

ivory indee

[thinreadline]

Originally Posted by VANDERNOTTE

ivory indee

What is ivory indee please ?

[Berkley]

The regularly alternating dark and light lines are characteristic of the type of celluloid known as “French ivory”, first made in the 1860s and often found in knife handles.

(Shown is a knife with French ivory scales made by George Wostenholm of Sheffield).
Impossible to say what environmental or traumatic effects caused the longitudinal fracture. With as much certainty as possible from merely photographic evidence, I vote “not ivory”.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by thinreadline

What is ivory indee please ?

Think it was meant "indeed".

[thinreadline]

Originally Posted by Helleri

I don't think this is ivory. Some translucence along the edges of cracks, dings, and scratches causes ivory to typically show hotter coloration there (red and orange, not black as is shown here). I think the grain is also too strait (with no intersection) and uninterrupted. Have you done the rub test?

What is the rub test ?

[Bob A]

Originally Posted by thinreadline

What is the rub test ?

I vaguely recall that one can rub suspect ivory until it is warmed, then smell it; a camphor odor would indicate that it was a man-made imitation. I don't have a reference for this, my failing memory will have to serve.

[blue lander]

I think ivory's supposed to be cooler to the touch than plastic or bone, too. If you put the piece in a cold basement or cellar for awhile and then pick it up, it should feel cold like a piece of stone because of the higher mineral content.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by asomotif

Ivorine, as used on kitchenknifes, can look very much like this.
Sometimes including the lines.

This was what I've meant, I think that the chance is great that we are looking at this material by this dagger. But I could be wrong.
Sure you only can get when you would remove the upper silver cap.

Regards,
Detlef