Rondel dagger

Bob A · 17th June 2016, 04:43 AM

It looks to me to be an interesting assembly of previously unrelated parts.

The blank surfaces of the pommel and guard do not seem to belong on the same object as the hilt, which itself can't seem to decide how it intends to be decorated. The cruciform marking is not in keeping with the other decoration.

Bear in mind, I know little or nothing about this sort of dagger, so you're getting an opinion backed only by my aging eyesight.

stekemest · 17th June 2016, 10:01 AM

Looks modern to me.

messia · 17th June 2016, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by stekemest

Looks modern to me.

Dagger is not modern, I bought a dagger in the old collector, collector bought the knife from an old friend, age Dagger minimum 80 years was in the hands of these people

corrado26 · 17th June 2016, 01:40 PM

Oh I understand, the collector was old, the friend was old, so the dagger must be old too. May be, but the bajonet M 1916 is old too
corrado26

Roland_M · 17th June 2016, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by corrado26

Oh I understand, the collector was old, the friend was old, so the dagger must be old too. May be, but the bajonet M 1916 is old too
corrado26

No reason to be cynical. How about a picture as a clear evidence of your bayonet-theory?

Here is your M1916. Are you really sure, that this is the same blade?

Roland

fernando · 17th June 2016, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Roland_M

No reason to be cynical...

A good point !

corrado26 · 17th June 2016, 02:47 PM

This is not a M/16-LEBEL bajonet! Look at the foto of a Lebel-M/16 and compare

Roland_M · 17th June 2016, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by corrado26

This is not a M/16-LEBEL bajonet! Look at the foto of a Lebel-M/16 and compare

The Lebel has a round base but the base of the dagger is rectangular!

The middle ridge of the Lebel is thicker than the dagger and finally the tip is completely different.

I am sure, this blade doesn't come from a Lebel or another well known mass produced bayonet.

Roland

17th June 2016, 02:47 PM	#7
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,231	This is not a M/16-LEBEL bajonet! Look at the foto of a Lebel-M/16 and compare Attached Images

17th June 2016, 04:43 AM	#1
Bob A Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 436	It looks to me to be an interesting assembly of previously unrelated parts. The blank surfaces of the pommel and guard do not seem to belong on the same object as the hilt, which itself can't seem to decide how it intends to be decorated. The cruciform marking is not in keeping with the other decoration. Bear in mind, I know little or nothing about this sort of dagger, so you're getting an opinion backed only by my aging eyesight.

17th June 2016, 10:01 AM	#2
stekemest Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Heidelberg, Germany Posts: 183	Looks modern to me.

17th June 2016, 01:40 PM	#4
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,231	Oh I understand, the collector was old, the friend was old, so the dagger must be old too. May be, but the bajonet M 1916 is old too corrado26