French An XIII conversion?

corrado26 · 23rd May 2016, 07:32 AM

Sorry Fernando, but I have to contradict: This typ of conversion is certainly not made in Piemont but at Liège as is the cock which is typically Liège made. See pictures of a Liège made pistol M 1816/38UM.
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GIO · 23rd May 2016, 02:18 PM

The proof mark is from Liege and was utilized from 1846 to 1893.

fernando · 23rd May 2016, 02:23 PM

That's the mark in the pistol posted by Corrado, not the example of this thread, posted by Raymond, right ?

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corrado26 · 23rd May 2016, 02:55 PM

That's right. This pistol M 1816/38UM with ramrod was made for the heavy Belgium cavalry, whereas the same pistol without a ramrod was made for the light cavalry. The "ELG" mark was by the way used from 1810 to 1897
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Raymond · 24th May 2016, 01:17 AM

Hi Fernando, Corrado26 and GIO,

Got some good information from you gentlemen.

Thank you!

Am I correct in saying that this is ( probably) a Belgian Heavy Cavalry Pistol circa 1816 - 18?? converted from a Belgian copy of the An XIII?

I can see a sanded off (?) part of the barrel where the Leige proof could have been. Alas, it is only a blur.

Thanks again!

Ray

corrado26 · 24th May 2016, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raymond

Am I correct in saying that this is ( probably) a Belgian Heavy Cavalry Pistol circa 1816 - 18?? converted from a Belgian copy of the An XIII?

This is not a copy of the French An13 pistol but a copy of the French M 1816/22 pistol
corrado26

Raymond · 25th May 2016, 10:33 PM

Thank You again, Corrado26,

May I ask one last question? Do you know what the "UM" stands for?

I am most appreciative of your time and patience in answering my queries!

Ray

GIO · 24th May 2016, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fernando

That's the mark in the pistol posted by Corrado, not the example of this thread, posted by Raymond, right ?

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Yes, Fernando. Sorry for not having been clear.

fernando · 24th May 2016, 12:00 PM

23rd May 2016, 07:32 AM	#1
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,231	Sorry Fernando, but I have to contradict: This typ of conversion is certainly not made in Piemont but at Liège as is the cock which is typically Liège made. See pictures of a Liège made pistol M 1816/38UM. corrado26 Attached Images

23rd May 2016, 02:55 PM	#4
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,231	That's right. This pistol M 1816/38UM with ramrod was made for the heavy Belgium cavalry, whereas the same pistol without a ramrod was made for the light cavalry. The "ELG" mark was by the way used from 1810 to 1897 corrado26 Attached Images

24th May 2016, 01:17 AM	#5
Raymond Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 10	Hi Fernando, Corrado26 and GIO, Got some good information from you gentlemen. Thank you! Am I correct in saying that this is ( probably) a Belgian Heavy Cavalry Pistol circa 1816 - 18?? converted from a Belgian copy of the An XIII? I can see a sanded off (?) part of the barrel where the Leige proof could have been. Alas, it is only a blur. Thanks again! Ray Last edited by fernando; 24th May 2016 at 10:03 AM. Reason: No appraisals allowed in discussion forum

23rd May 2016, 02:18 PM	#2
GIO Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 329	The proof mark is from Liege and was utilized from 1846 to 1893.

23rd May 2016, 02:23 PM	#3
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	That's the mark in the pistol posted by Corrado, not the example of this thread, posted by Raymond, right ? .

25th May 2016, 10:33 PM	#7
Raymond Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 10	Thank You again, Corrado26, May I ask one last question? Do you know what the "UM" stands for? I am most appreciative of your time and patience in answering my queries! Ray

24th May 2016, 12:00 PM	#9
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694