Ancient Bronze '' Keris '' found in Bujang Valley Malaysia

HangPC2 · 27th April 2016, 11:17 AM

Update (27/4/2016)

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ariel · 27th April 2016, 09:39 PM

My antennae are still twitching...
I thought that metal scabbards were made only in the 19th ( or later) century Europe.
Am I wrong?

Timo Nieminen · 28th April 2016, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel

My antennae are still twitching...
I thought that metal scabbards were made only in the 19th ( or later) century Europe.
Am I wrong?

There are some Bronze Age Chinese bronze scabbards. Wasn't the usual practice, but sometimes done.

ariel · 29th April 2016, 12:28 AM

Sorry, unedited post managed to slide thru:-(((

ariel · 29th April 2016, 12:29 AM

Just to think that Lew Nolan was tearing his hair out at the stupidity of British military regulations that introduced edge-dulling metal scabbards!

But apparently the Chinese beat the Brits to it:-)

Timo Nieminen · 30th April 2016, 05:45 AM

There are Iron Age Celtic scabbards described as "all metal", usually iron, but sometimes bronze or iron and bronze. I don't know whether they're really all-iron, or iron-covered wooden cores, or lined.

19th century British iron scabbards I've seen had (or were supposed to have) wooden liners to keep the edge away from the iron. The problem is that the lining strips would wear, and not do their job properly. In 1880, they started to do scabbards with a solid wooden liner (rather than strips), so the late scabbards are basically iron/steel-covered wooden scabbards.

27th April 2016, 11:17 AM	#1
HangPC2 Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Malaysia Posts: 66	Update (27/4/2016) http://i68.tinypic.com/29vgd2t.jpg

27th April 2016, 09:39 PM	#2
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	My antennae are still twitching... I thought that metal scabbards were made only in the 19th ( or later) century Europe. Am I wrong?

29th April 2016, 12:28 AM	#4
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Sorry, unedited post managed to slide thru:-(((

29th April 2016, 12:29 AM	#5
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Just to think that Lew Nolan was tearing his hair out at the stupidity of British military regulations that introduced edge-dulling metal scabbards! But apparently the Chinese beat the Brits to it:-)

30th April 2016, 05:45 AM	#6
Timo Nieminen Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 422	There are Iron Age Celtic scabbards described as "all metal", usually iron, but sometimes bronze or iron and bronze. I don't know whether they're really all-iron, or iron-covered wooden cores, or lined. 19th century British iron scabbards I've seen had (or were supposed to have) wooden liners to keep the edge away from the iron. The problem is that the lining strips would wear, and not do their job properly. In 1880, they started to do scabbards with a solid wooden liner (rather than strips), so the late scabbards are basically iron/steel-covered wooden scabbards.