Rajput Tulwar stamp?

mariusgmioc · 17th April 2016, 11:46 AM

Maybe I am wrong but I would say recently made. So in my opinion the stamp doesn't even matter.

ariel · 17th April 2016, 12:34 PM

I think that, on the contrary, it is 100% genuine, and the stamp matters a lot. Regretfully, I cannot identify it, but would love to know an opinion of a knowledgeable person.

mariusgmioc · 17th April 2016, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ariel

I think that, on the contrary, it is 100% genuine, and the stamp matters a lot. Regretfully, I cannot identify it, but would love to know an opinion of a knowledgeable person.

Hello Ariel,

I honestly hope that you are right... but...

Please have a look at the ricasso, then at the beginning of the edge. To me, the ricasso appears to be very flat and rather thin, like cut from sheet steel, then the blade was given an scandi ground edge.

The hilt also looks suspiciously new, almost no losses to the koftgari.

Not to mention the golden koftgary on silver background which is a rather recent trend.

Also the spots of acid etching on the silver background of the hilt look very suspicious.

I would also like to hear what others have to say.

AkaaliSingh · 17th April 2016, 02:22 PM

its 100% antique and not a reproduction.. the blade is very thick and heavy and not formed from steel metal..

I do own another example similar with gold and silver work. You can get nearly mint antique koftghari tulwars but they set you back a arm and a leg..

Jens Nordlunde · 17th April 2016, 04:50 PM

It is hard to say from the pictures. but I have seen other hilts of this type, not with quite the same decoration, with blades marked with a Kishangarh etchings, and I have been told about another woth an etching from Rutlam State 1876.

How thick is the blade?
Can you write the letters down under the langet?

AkaaliSingh · 17th April 2016, 06:07 PM

Hi Jens , i'll measure the thickness of the blade and get some more images for further research. I'll post new copies of this hilt too for comparison.

I will try and copy the stamp also..

17th April 2016, 02:22 PM	#4
AkaaliSingh Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 31	its 100% antique and not a reproduction.. the blade is very thick and heavy and not formed from steel metal.. I do own another example similar with gold and silver work. You can get nearly mint antique koftghari tulwars but they set you back a arm and a leg.. Last edited by Battara; 17th April 2016 at 09:03 PM.

17th April 2016, 11:46 AM	#1
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,906	Maybe I am wrong but I would say recently made. So in my opinion the stamp doesn't even matter.

17th April 2016, 12:34 PM	#2
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	I think that, on the contrary, it is 100% genuine, and the stamp matters a lot. Regretfully, I cannot identify it, but would love to know an opinion of a knowledgeable person.

17th April 2016, 04:50 PM	#5
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	It is hard to say from the pictures. but I have seen other hilts of this type, not with quite the same decoration, with blades marked with a Kishangarh etchings, and I have been told about another woth an etching from Rutlam State 1876. How thick is the blade? Can you write the letters down under the langet?

17th April 2016, 06:07 PM	#6
AkaaliSingh Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 31	Hi Jens , i'll measure the thickness of the blade and get some more images for further research. I'll post new copies of this hilt too for comparison. I will try and copy the stamp also..