Rajput Tulwar stamp?

AkaaliSingh · 14th April 2016, 08:28 PM

Hi all , here is a gold indian tulwar i own with large indian blade.. can anyone through more light to this sword? it seems to be rajput to me. I also need help with the inscription that is on the blade. Can anybody help with the translation please?

I can see the sanskrit letter S

thank you!

AkaaliSingh · 17th April 2016, 12:15 PM

??bump anybody

mariusgmioc · 17th April 2016, 12:46 PM

Maybe I am wrong but I would say recently made. So in my opinion the stamp doesn't even matter.

ariel · 17th April 2016, 01:34 PM

I think that, on the contrary, it is 100% genuine, and the stamp matters a lot. Regretfully, I cannot identify it, but would love to know an opinion of a knowledgeable person.

mariusgmioc · 17th April 2016, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel

I think that, on the contrary, it is 100% genuine, and the stamp matters a lot. Regretfully, I cannot identify it, but would love to know an opinion of a knowledgeable person.

Hello Ariel,

I honestly hope that you are right... but...

Please have a look at the ricasso, then at the beginning of the edge. To me, the ricasso appears to be very flat and rather thin, like cut from sheet steel, then the blade was given an scandi ground edge.

The hilt also looks suspiciously new, almost no losses to the koftgari.

Not to mention the golden koftgary on silver background which is a rather recent trend.

Also the spots of acid etching on the silver background of the hilt look very suspicious.

I would also like to hear what others have to say.

AkaaliSingh · 17th April 2016, 03:22 PM

its 100% antique and not a reproduction.. the blade is very thick and heavy and not formed from steel metal..

I do own another example similar with gold and silver work. You can get nearly mint antique koftghari tulwars but they set you back a arm and a leg..

Jens Nordlunde · 17th April 2016, 05:50 PM

It is hard to say from the pictures. but I have seen other hilts of this type, not with quite the same decoration, with blades marked with a Kishangarh etchings, and I have been told about another woth an etching from Rutlam State 1876.

How thick is the blade?
Can you write the letters down under the langet?

AkaaliSingh · 17th April 2016, 07:07 PM

Hi Jens , i'll measure the thickness of the blade and get some more images for further research. I'll post new copies of this hilt too for comparison.

I will try and copy the stamp also..

Jens Nordlunde · 17th April 2016, 07:18 PM

Have a look here, or make a search for Kishingarh.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ght=Kishangarh

AkaaliSingh · 17th April 2016, 09:26 PM

Hi Jens, How do you know its from Kishingarh?

This sword is a beast... 37inches top to bottom of the hilt. Blade is 34 inches.. Here are some close ups. The white residue is the excess wax left on... Any ideas how to remove it without upsettng the koftghari? heat gun?

AkaaliSingh · 17th April 2016, 09:28 PM

Here is another silver and gold example.. again abit white residue all over due to too much wax.. apologies.

AkaaliSingh · 17th April 2016, 10:13 PM

Here are examples of new gold/silver tulwars..

Jens Nordlunde · 17th April 2016, 10:32 PM

I dont say that your sword is from there. What I say is, that my sword has an etching from Kishingarh on the blade - and that is quite a difference.
I have seen two of the same kinds of hilts like mine with hand guards, and a least one or two others without hand guards (may be lost).
Some had diffrent - more or less - diamond shaped hilts.

14th April 2016, 08:28 PM	#1
AkaaliSingh Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 31	Rajput Tulwar stamp? Hi all , here is a gold indian tulwar i own with large indian blade.. can anyone through more light to this sword? it seems to be rajput to me. I also need help with the inscription that is on the blade. Can anybody help with the translation please? I can see the sanskrit letter S thank you! Attached Images

17th April 2016, 03:22 PM	#6
AkaaliSingh Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 31	its 100% antique and not a reproduction.. the blade is very thick and heavy and not formed from steel metal.. I do own another example similar with gold and silver work. You can get nearly mint antique koftghari tulwars but they set you back a arm and a leg.. Last edited by Battara; 17th April 2016 at 10:03 PM.

17th April 2016, 09:26 PM	#10
AkaaliSingh Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 31	Hi Jens, How do you know its from Kishingarh? This sword is a beast... 37inches top to bottom of the hilt. Blade is 34 inches.. Here are some close ups. The white residue is the excess wax left on... Any ideas how to remove it without upsettng the koftghari? heat gun? Attached Images

17th April 2016, 09:28 PM	#11
AkaaliSingh Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 31	Here is another silver and gold example.. again abit white residue all over due to too much wax.. apologies. Attached Images

17th April 2016, 10:13 PM	#12
AkaaliSingh Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 31	Here are examples of new gold/silver tulwars.. Attached Images

17th April 2016, 12:15 PM	#2
AkaaliSingh Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 31	??bump anybody

17th April 2016, 12:46 PM	#3
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,903	Maybe I am wrong but I would say recently made. So in my opinion the stamp doesn't even matter.

17th April 2016, 01:34 PM	#4
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	I think that, on the contrary, it is 100% genuine, and the stamp matters a lot. Regretfully, I cannot identify it, but would love to know an opinion of a knowledgeable person.

17th April 2016, 05:50 PM	#7
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	It is hard to say from the pictures. but I have seen other hilts of this type, not with quite the same decoration, with blades marked with a Kishangarh etchings, and I have been told about another woth an etching from Rutlam State 1876. How thick is the blade? Can you write the letters down under the langet?

17th April 2016, 07:07 PM	#8
AkaaliSingh Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 31	Hi Jens , i'll measure the thickness of the blade and get some more images for further research. I'll post new copies of this hilt too for comparison. I will try and copy the stamp also..

17th April 2016, 07:18 PM	#9
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Have a look here, or make a search for Kishingarh. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ght=Kishangarh

17th April 2016, 10:32 PM	#13
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	I dont say that your sword is from there. What I say is, that my sword has an etching from Kishingarh on the blade - and that is quite a difference. I have seen two of the same kinds of hilts like mine with hand guards, and a least one or two others without hand guards (may be lost). Some had diffrent - more or less - diamond shaped hilts.