When in India "died" wootz?

ariel · 25th February 2016, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by estcrh

It is unfortunate that images of the blades that Anosov made are not available to see. Ann Feuerbach did get to see one of his blades.

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Originally Posted by Ann Feuerbach
FYI, I have held the blade that Anosov made for Faraday. It had a light sham-like pattern, however, the blade was overcleaned and that may be why the pattern was faint and only visable near the handle.

Yet another example of Sham-like pattern.
Any Tabans or Khorasans? :-)))

estcrh · 25th February 2016, 07:42 PM

Another reference about creating a specific pattern by manipulating the crucible steel blade blank during forging.

ariel · 25th February 2016, 10:37 PM

Estcrh:
Kirk and rose are not inherent wootz patterns. They are artificially- created distortions in the underlying wootz pattern. If the blade is not wootz ( or, at the very least, mechanical damaskus) no cuttings, grindings etc will help.
I am sure you know it, but I am always surprised and annoyed when some sources list different kinds of wootz as " Sham, Khorasan, Taban, and the most prized of all, - Kirk Narduban" :-)

25th February 2016, 07:42 PM	#2
estcrh Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: USA Posts: 1,492	Another reference about creating a specific pattern by manipulating the crucible steel blade blank during forging. Attached Images Last edited by estcrh; 25th February 2016 at 08:18 PM.

25th February 2016, 10:37 PM	#3
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Estcrh: Kirk and rose are not inherent wootz patterns. They are artificially- created distortions in the underlying wootz pattern. If the blade is not wootz ( or, at the very least, mechanical damaskus) no cuttings, grindings etc will help. I am sure you know it, but I am always surprised and annoyed when some sources list different kinds of wootz as " Sham, Khorasan, Taban, and the most prized of all, - Kirk Narduban" :-)