albanian jambiya

Valjhun · 19th January 2006, 06:17 PM

I'm not so knowledeable so I cannot clarify the wootz-subject any further, but I've finally recived the dagger and it is a big mystery to me. The blade is gorgeus and it definetly looks like ottoman damascus to me. The handle look also old and I do not think that it is a later adition. The damascening on the scabbard looks nice, doing a little research on the net I've found a true albanian jambiya with similar damascening. In the Tirri's book there is a photo of a verry similar (almost identical jambiya) on the page 97, with the atribution that it is a Syrian Jambiya from 19th century. But if I'm honest, I do not believe to Mr. Tirri anymore, due to his fatal errors in the same book (Suremene knife = unusual balkan dagger, Laz bichagi = egyptian knopesh, and many more...) Any further comments?

Battara · 20th January 2006, 01:42 AM

I have a crystalline damascus wootz kard blade and a non-crystalline wootz Kurdish jambiya. This is wootz and not crystalline, though I would vote Iraqi, maybe marsh Arab.

Oriental-Arms · 23rd January 2006, 01:58 PM

I could not expect a better timing for this thread to come up. Just to count the names mentioned here: Wootz, Pulad, Sham, crystalline, mechanical and I can add Johar and watered steel and probably few other names just to demonstrate the confusion and how little we know about it.

Good time will be devoted to discuss the Wootz issue in the forthcoming meeting in Timonium, March 18 2006. We will be privileged and honored to have both Ann Feuerbach and Ric Furrer talk to us and put some order in the subject.

Full program to be announced soon. We look forward to see you all there.

Jens Nordlunde · 23rd January 2006, 03:25 PM

Here you can read about wootz, ukku or whatever it is called. You should also have a look at the bibliography. http://www.infinityfoundation.com/ma...graw_wootz.htm

23rd January 2006, 01:58 PM	#3
Oriental-Arms Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Haifa, Israel Posts: 183	Wootz, Pulad, Johar and all the rest I could not expect a better timing for this thread to come up. Just to count the names mentioned here: *Wootz, Pulad, Sham, crystalline, mechanical* and I can add Johar and watered steel and probably few other names just to demonstrate the confusion and how little we know about it. Good time will be devoted to discuss the Wootz issue in the forthcoming meeting in Timonium, March 18 2006. We will be privileged and honored to have both Ann Feuerbach and Ric Furrer talk to us and put some order in the subject. Full program to be announced soon. We look forward to see you all there.

19th January 2006, 06:17 PM	#1
Valjhun Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 692	I'm not so knowledeable so I cannot clarify the wootz-subject any further, but I've finally recived the dagger and it is a big mystery to me. The blade is gorgeus and it definetly looks like ottoman damascus to me. The handle look also old and I do not think that it is a later adition. The damascening on the scabbard looks nice, doing a little research on the net I've found a true albanian jambiya with similar damascening. In the Tirri's book there is a photo of a verry similar (almost identical jambiya) on the page 97, with the atribution that it is a Syrian Jambiya from 19th century. But if I'm honest, I do not believe to Mr. Tirri anymore, due to his fatal errors in the same book (Suremene knife = unusual balkan dagger, Laz bichagi = egyptian knopesh, and many more...) Any further comments?

20th January 2006, 01:42 AM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,316	I have a crystalline damascus wootz kard blade and a non-crystalline wootz Kurdish jambiya. This is wootz and not crystalline, though I would vote Iraqi, maybe marsh Arab.

23rd January 2006, 03:25 PM	#4
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Here you can read about wootz, ukku or whatever it is called. You should also have a look at the bibliography. http://www.infinityfoundation.com/ma...graw_wootz.htm