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Old 30th January 2016, 06:16 PM   #1
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Hey there
By a principle of intellectual honesty, I must rectify
The punch used the antiquated form of the letter I by the letter and the letter V and the letter U
Thus, the punch says I Z A G U (Y Z A G V) which is to say IZAGUIRRE
On page 347 of Ramiro Larrañaga, "Synthesis of the Basque Historical armory" is a drawing of Calvo, pistol model 1753, produced in 1781 by AZCARATE, and the punch says AZCA
On the lisma work, page 222 one IZAGUIRRE, Gabriel is detailed as lockmaker, 1745 and Simon, the factory stockmaker Silillos, 1720
In the work of Barcelo Rubi "Spanish portable armament", on page 219, the gun described in use in 1784, saying it has a escutcheon with a R engraved inside.
The S corresponds to the factory SILILLOS
Sorry for the translator
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Old 31st January 2016, 11:11 AM   #2
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Old 31st January 2016, 01:38 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by Fernando K
Hey there
By a principle of intellectual honesty, I must rectify
The punch used the antiquated form of the letter I by the letter and the letter V and the letter U
Thus, the punch says I Z A G U (Y Z A G V) which is to say IZAGUIRRE
On page 347 of Ramiro Larrañaga, "Synthesis of the Basque Historical armory" is a drawing of Calvo, pistol model 1753, produced in 1781 by AZCARATE, and the punch says AZCA
On the lisma work, page 222 one IZAGUIRRE, Gabriel is detailed as lockmaker, 1745 and Simon, the factory stockmaker Silillos, 1720
In the work of Barcelo Rubi "Spanish portable armament", on page 219, the gun described in use in 1784, saying it has a escutcheon with a R engraved inside.
The S corresponds to the factory SILILLOS
Sorry for the translator
Affectionately. Fernando K
Thanks so much Fernando K. That is most helpful information, and very much appreciated.

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Ramiro Larrañaga is a prestigious Basque arms industry expert. Trained as an engraver and a great capacity for self-learning feature in studies on the tradition armera Deva Valley, especially in his hometown, Placencia de las Armas and the neighboring town of Eibar . He developed important historical works and edited reference works from the history of the gunsmith manufacturing to the uniqueness of the Basque language .

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramiro_Larra%C3%B1aga

Síntesis histórica de la armería vasca. Publicada en 1981.
(Historical synthesis of Basque armory. Published in 1981 .)

ISBN 9788472316294

http://www.amazon.es/S%C3%8DNTESIS-H.../dp/B00CY1BKUW

http://www.euskomedia.org/PDFAnlt/riev/30/30109110.pdf

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"lisma Work"?
AKA Same Work.

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Bernardo Barceló Rubí, Tres Siglos de Armamento Portátil en España
(Bernardo Barceló Rubí, 3 CENTURIES OF PORTABLE ARMS IN SPAIN)

ISBN: 978-84-607-5934-8
EAN: 9788460759348

Bernardo Barceló Rubí, El armamento portatil español (1764-1939), una labor artillera
Bernardo Barceló Rubí, (The Spanish portable weapons (1764-1939), an artillery work)

ISBN:84-7140-138-X

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The site of Silillos, near the town of Valdetorres along the Jarama River
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6900...5318557,14.25z

Silillos (Valdetorres de Jarama)


SILILLOS
Whereas the production of Catalan and Basque had (it to be insufficient for the Total Army Equipment. Felipe V commissioned Juan de Moros. Master Arms of the Court, the installation of a factory near Madrid, considered in 1719 that the site more suitable for the installation of the new plant was the site of Silillos, near the town of Valdetorres along the Jarama River, which had been a grain and paper mills that could adapt to the new destination without overspending. The same year Construction began under the direction of architect José de Churriguera, naming asentista Antonio Puche and in 1729 came the first artisans helmets and Catalan, but construction of the factory began to fall behind and after a series of lawsuits and difficulties liquidation was decided. in 1725. waive Antonio Puche to dohis position asentista while claiming the sum of 3.231 million Fleece indicating Royals have advanced in the unfortunate experience. In 1757 the existence of the Silillos factory as such is very questionable, but the instructions to be followed by suppliers approved that year still mentioning the brand that will distinguish the production of that factory, which by 1770 was again tried to start moving there were some Basque artisans start making a new key proposed by the watch of Madrid, Juan Leclerge, but the attempt failed again due to unsafe place, and Silillos was finally abandoned

http://www.scribd.com/doc/193070812/...75-1943#scribd

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Old 31st January 2016, 03:37 PM   #4
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Hey there

By a typo, I wanted to put "same work" and became "lisma". The machine translation could not do, and translated "lisma". I apologize

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By a typo, I wanted to put "same work" and became "lisma". The machine translation could not do, and translated "lisma". I apologize

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Thanks again Fernando K!!!
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