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Old 25th January 2016, 06:00 PM   #1
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The story of Vereshchagin's death along with Admiral Makarov, the only competent Russian naval commander at the time, was a death knell for the Russian Navy. Coupled with humiliating and totally disproportional losses at the Battle of Tsushima ( Russians lost all of their 11 battleships, 4 of 8 cruisers and 6 of 9 destroyers against the Japanese loss of 3 torpedo boats) this left Port Artur totally undefended.

General Kuropatkin, the commander of the Russian Ground Forces was equally incompetent and lost one battle after another.

After Port Arthur surrender, he went into deep depression. To lift his spirits, Tsar Nicolas II presented him with a gorgeous chess set, made by Faberge of rare stones, gold and silver. It had carved signatures of Tsar himself, as well as those of Kuropatkin's fellow generals.

How do I know it?

A good acquaintance of mine is the #1 chess collector in the world, and he bought this set from a London dealer BEFORE it was put on the market. He just pulled out his check book, wrote the name of the dealer, signed it and only then asked " How much?" I never asked what was the number :-)

I spent some time in front of a custom glass cabinet, marveling at the incredible sight.
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Old 25th January 2016, 06:16 PM   #2
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The story of Vereshchagin's death along with Admiral Makarov, the only competent Russian naval commander at the time, was a death knell for the Russian Navy. Coupled with humiliating and totally disproportional losses at the Battle of Tsushima ( Russians lost all of their 11 battleships, 4 of 8 cruisers and 6 of 9 destroyers against the Japanese loss of 3 torpedo boats) this left Port Artur totally undefended.

General Kuropatkin, the commander of the Russian Ground Forces was equally incompetent and lost one battle after another.

After Port Arthur surrender, he went into deep depression. To lift his spirits, Tsar Nicolas II presented him with a gorgeous chess set, made by Faberge of rare stones, gold and silver. It had carved signatures of Tsar himself, as well as those of Kuropatkin's fellow generals.

How do I know it?

A good acquaintance of mine is the #1 chess collector in the world, and he bought this set from a London dealer BEFORE it was put on the market. He just pulled out his check book, wrote the name of the dealer, signed it and only then asked " How much?" I never asked what was the number :-)

I spent some time in front of a custom glass cabinet, marveling at the incredible sight.
Ariel, the topic - the artistic creativity Vereshchagin. In particular, his paintings of India. I do not understand your post. If you want to talk about the death of Vasily Vereshchagin - was enough the first half of your first phrase.

If you touch the story, you're right, Ariel. Tsushima - it is the greatest shame of the Russian Navy. It can be likened to Pearl Harbor for the US Navy.
But, You probably do not understand. This issue is not about the history of Russia and the history of the Russian Navy. Your message did not fit the topic. I ask the moderators to remove Ariel message №7 and my message №8.

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Old 25th January 2016, 07:02 PM   #3
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Ariel, the topic - the artistic creativity Vereshchagin. In particular, his paintings of India. I do not understand your post. If you want to talk about the death of Vasily Vereshchagin - was enough the first half of your first phrase.
That's interesting Dmitriy, but you know, this is the Ethnographic Arms & Armor Forum, not Art Forum. I do see one painting that you posted that clearly shows arms and armor that we can discuss. One. I am willing to bet that Vereshchagin may have painted quite a few others worthy of discussion here as he is specifically known for his paintings that depict war. Show us those and discuss ethnographic weapons. That is what we do here. We don't discuss artistic creativity of an artist for art's sake. So one might question whether or not your initial post is even on topic for this forum. If you would like to talk about Vereshchagin's work in context to this forum please show us more images of weapons, not palaces, royals on horse and elephant back and street beggars.
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Old 25th January 2016, 07:34 PM   #4
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Pictures Vereshchagin. Central Asia.
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Old 25th January 2016, 07:39 PM   #5
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That's interesting Dmitriy, but you know, this is the Ethnographic Arms & Armor Forum, not Art Forum.
Thanks for the reply David. Probably Ariel message fits the theme of the Ethnographic Arms & Armor Forum. In contrast to the images that I show here. Thanks for clarifying.
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Old 25th January 2016, 08:27 PM   #6
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Picture, photo, Shamshir
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Old 25th January 2016, 09:07 PM   #7
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Ariel, one week ban for baiting.

Mahratt, one week ban for taking the bait.

As you both have been warned multiple times the first PM I receive from either of you complaining about this will earn you a month in moderation as well.

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Vereshchagin is absolutely correct in detail. This is his personal style.
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