Mantras keris and empu

Pusaka · 17th December 2015, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mick

This discussion is veering into one of the "mystical" properties of beliefs in regard to the keris.

It started as a thread about the mystical properties ie mantra. That is a major aspect in keris too.

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Originally Posted by Mick

One of these people told me that an empowered blade will give a tingling feeling to his hands while a regular blade will not. This individual visited me before I left the country about 40 years ago, went through the 20 or so of the kerises that I had on hand and picked out about three or four as having power. I, obviously, don't profess to have this ability, so I didn't feel any difference between these kerises and the rest of the bunch. But this is one of the things that arise when you really study the subject of kerises.

One guru I knew believed the same, he would hold a keris blade between his thumb and index finger and feel for a vibration.

People would bring him keris occasionally but the thing is he was secretive and if someone had a live blade he would not tell them. I remember actually one occasion in which after the person had gone I overheard him say to one of his senior students "that blade was live, but I went going to tell him that"

Jean · 18th December 2015, 09:32 AM

My Solonese friend who is a high silat master was teached this ability to detect "empowered" blades. For this he would pass his hand along the blade close to it but without touching it and feel a vibration or rather tingling feeling as said by Mick. I tried it but it was not very successful probably by lack of relaxation and training (although I have dowser abilities which may help). An alternative technique which he uses is to hold a match and pass it along and close to the blade for transmitting the feeling to the hand. Try it yourself!

Regards

Pusaka · 18th December 2015, 10:35 AM

Nobody is born with the ability to feel the vibration in an empowered blade, you have to do a training technique In Silat its called rasa, the ability to feel with the heart. Just as the inner teachings of the keris are secret so are most of these training techniques also.

18th December 2015, 09:32 AM	#2
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	My Solonese friend who is a high silat master was teached this ability to detect "empowered" blades. For this he would pass his hand along the blade close to it but without touching it and feel a vibration or rather tingling feeling as said by Mick. I tried it but it was not very successful probably by lack of relaxation and training (although I have dowser abilities which may help). An alternative technique which he uses is to hold a match and pass it along and close to the blade for transmitting the feeling to the hand. Try it yourself! Regards

18th December 2015, 10:35 AM	#3
Pusaka Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 341	Nobody is born with the ability to feel the vibration in an empowered blade, you have to do a training technique In Silat its called rasa, the ability to feel with the heart. Just as the inner teachings of the keris are secret so are most of these training techniques also.