Examples of Repaired Moro Armor

Battara · 19th November 2015, 05:06 PM

Greetings folks!

I am repairing a new suit of Moro armor in my spare time (when I have some).

What I am looking for are pictures of Moro armor where the horn plates have been repaired, especially from the past.

Thank you.

Battara · 22nd November 2015, 07:49 AM

No one has any pictures so far, eh?

estcrh · 22nd November 2015, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

No one has any pictures so far, eh?

I have a lot of Moro armor images but I can not remember seeing or hearing about any repairs being done, will you be using horn to repair/replace broken plates?

https://www.pinterest.com/worldantiq...d-surrounding/

Oriental-Arms · 22nd November 2015, 10:03 AM

See http://www.oriental-arms.com/item.php?id=5685

The lower right plate on the front side is a replacement

Battara · 24th November 2015, 04:22 PM

Thank you both.

What about when the horn plates are broken, either in half or where the links are? Are the plates totally replaced or is brass pinned to the horn with link holes?

I have only seen the latter once, but am not sure this was Moro work or more recent repairs..........

CharlesS · 24th November 2015, 04:51 PM

Battara,

You know this type of thing is "out of my ballpark", but it seems to me that broken horn would have to be replaced in full. Wouldn't any other solution at least weaken the horn plate and ruin the whole purpose of the armor to start with?

Just thinking.

Battara · 26th November 2015, 03:11 AM

A point well taken Charles (and Artzi per your example posted). Thank you.

Battara · 26th November 2015, 03:13 AM

On the other hand, I just found this example from a Bonham's auction (November 26, 2008):

Ian · 26th November 2015, 04:15 AM

Jose:

Whoever was wearing that armor when it took a hit sufficient to fracture the horn plate probably did not survive the blow. Penetration at that point likely resulted in a blow to the heart. Someone else probably repaired it.

Ian.

Battara · 28th November 2015, 06:45 AM

So ian, are you with Charles and Artzi, that originally the plate would have been totally replaced rather than "fixed"?

estcrh · 28th November 2015, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

On the other hand, I just found this example from a Bonham's auction (November 26, 2008):

This particular armor has a lot of serious damage to the plates, to fix them it looks like the plates would have to be replaced or the damaged plates would have to be attached to a backing material like sheet metal or leather/rawhide etc.

High resolution image.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...de5fa8302f.jpg

Battara · 29th November 2015, 07:12 PM

Thank you for the better pic. I'm afraid you might be right. I really don't want to make new plates especially replace 2 of them on mine that are really thick and in the middle of a lot of ring work. On another suit of Moro armor, I saw a plate with a slight wrap of brass that replaced the broken holes and connected the chainmaille. Again though, was this recently done or an original form of Moro repair?

19th November 2015, 05:06 PM	#1
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,220	Examples of Repaired Moro Armor Greetings folks! I am repairing a new suit of Moro armor in my spare time (when I have some). What I am looking for are pictures of Moro armor where the horn plates have been repaired, especially from the past. Thank you.

22nd November 2015, 10:03 AM	#4
Oriental-Arms Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Haifa, Israel Posts: 183	Moro Armor See http://www.oriental-arms.com/item.php?id=5685 The lower right plate on the front side is a replacement Attached Images

26th November 2015, 03:13 AM	#8
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,220	On the other hand, I just found this example from a Bonham's auction (November 26, 2008): Attached Images Last edited by Battara; 26th November 2015 at 03:34 AM.

22nd November 2015, 07:49 AM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,220	No one has any pictures so far, eh?

24th November 2015, 04:22 PM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,220	Thank you both. What about when the horn plates are broken, either in half or where the links are? Are the plates totally replaced or is brass pinned to the horn with link holes? I have only seen the latter once, but am not sure this was Moro work or more recent repairs..........

24th November 2015, 04:51 PM	#6
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,857	Battara, You know this type of thing is "out of my ballpark", but it seems to me that broken horn would have to be replaced in full. Wouldn't any other solution at least weaken the horn plate and ruin the whole purpose of the armor to start with? Just thinking.

26th November 2015, 03:11 AM	#7
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,220	A point well taken Charles (and Artzi per your example posted). Thank you.

26th November 2015, 04:15 AM	#9
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,200	Jose: Whoever was wearing that armor when it took a hit sufficient to fracture the horn plate probably did not survive the blow. Penetration at that point likely resulted in a blow to the heart. Someone else probably repaired it. Ian.

28th November 2015, 06:45 AM	#10
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,220	So ian, are you with Charles and Artzi, that originally the plate would have been totally replaced rather than "fixed"?

29th November 2015, 07:12 PM	#12
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,220	Thank you for the better pic. I'm afraid you might be right. I really don't want to make new plates especially replace 2 of them on mine that are really thick and in the middle of a lot of ring work. On another suit of Moro armor, I saw a plate with a slight wrap of brass that replaced the broken holes and connected the chainmaille. Again though, was this recently done or an original form of Moro repair?