Ethnographic Arms & Armour
 

Go Back   Ethnographic Arms & Armour > Discussion Forums > Ethnographic Weapons
FAQ Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 19th October 2015, 03:45 AM   #1
Timo Nieminen
Member
 
Timo Nieminen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 422
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by endeavour192
I just wanted to know if it is an antique tibetan helmet (18e or 19e century), or if it is a fake ?
In addition to the opinion above, I'll add that the lamellar neck-guard is laced incorrectly. Not just a little wrong, but completely wrong.
Timo Nieminen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19th October 2015, 09:01 AM   #2
kronckew
Member
 
kronckew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Room 101, Glos. UK
Posts: 4,224
Default

bhutan swords are still part of the national dress, the king wears his frequently on state occasions. makes it harder to date them as they are actively being traditionally made as i type.

the king:
Attached Images
 
kronckew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19th October 2015, 10:13 AM   #3
kronckew
Member
 
kronckew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Room 101, Glos. UK
Posts: 4,224
Default

also, the swords come in various lengths and grades. my 'villager' model:
Attached Images
  
kronckew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19th October 2015, 12:09 PM   #4
David R
Member
 
David R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,120
Default

I had one of those, many years ago. I greatly regret letting it go, a very well made blade, very simply mounted.
David R is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th October 2015, 01:27 AM   #5
dennee
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: College Park, MD
Posts: 186
Default

That's a baanmok, a Lepcha knife from Sikkim. There are similarities to the working knives of Bhutan.

I have often wondered if the baanmok blades of the fullered type were made by Nepalese smiths.
dennee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th October 2015, 10:06 AM   #6
kronckew
Member
 
kronckew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Room 101, Glos. UK
Posts: 4,224
Default

you are correct,

found this:
Quote:
Originally Posted by denee
The knife or short sword is the traditional "ban" of the Lepcha people, who principally came to live in remoter, forested valleys in Sikkim, but were found in Bhutan as well and across the Nepal border. Although it frequently appears as "Bhutanese," it is distinct (in length, blade shape and composition, scabbard and decoration) from the typical arms of the ethnically Tibetan Bhutias who migrated into the area and became the majority (at least before the influx of a great number of Nepalis to the area). I believe that Lord Egerton identifies such a piece as from Bhutan, as indeed it could have been made, used and collected there. A photographed example in his book is identified as from "Bhotan or Nepalese Frontier.".
kronckew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th October 2015, 04:42 PM   #7
endeavour192
Member
 
endeavour192's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 5
Default Himalayan helmets

Thank you. What about thoses helmets ? Is it real old (18-19e century) ?
It is isupposed to be tibetan and bhutanese helmet.





Endeavour192, The posting of items currently at auction is strictly against forum rules.

Robert

Last edited by Robert; 26th October 2015 at 04:33 PM.
endeavour192 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 05:43 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Posts are regarded as being copyrighted by their authors and the act of posting material is deemed to be a granting of an irrevocable nonexclusive license for display here.