Need translation for an Indian torador with heavy Barrel

[bhushan_lawate]

Hi,

The script is Devanagari used for writing Sanskrit, Hindi and Marathi languages.

It reads Ra Ja Pa Li Ta(?) Ha Na Li

Which could be the name of a place or person. Mostly, a place
Also the writing appears to be done much later as the style looks to be of a much recent form.
Hope this is helpful.

Regards,
Bhushan

[Cerjak]

Originally Posted by bhushan_lawate

Hi,

The script is Devanagari used for writing Sanskrit, Hindi and Marathi languages.

It reads Ra Ja Pa Li Ta(?) Ha Na Li

Which could be the name of a place or person. Mostly, a place
Also the writing appears to be done much later as the style looks to be of a much recent form.
Hope this is helpful.

Regards,
Bhushan

Dear bhushan_lawate

Thank you very much for the translation.
according to the style Do you have any idea from which period could be this writing?
I have in an other TORADOR with an other type of writing ,is it an older style of writing ?
Best

Cerjak

[BANDOOK]

GREETINGS CERJAK
THIS ONE HAS KOTA ARMOURY MARKS,WHICH WAS A PRINCELY STATE OF RAJASTHAN..NORTH WEST INDIA,CHEERS RAJESH
THE EARLIER ONE IS FROM THE JAIPUR ARMOURY ANOTHER IMPORTANT AND CAPITAL OF RAJASTHAN STATE,AND VERY NICE ETHNIC MUSKETS
PLEASE CAN YOU POST A GOOD PICTURE OF THE ENTIRE COLLECTION

[Pukka Bundook]

Very nice and interesting toradors, Cerjak!

The problem with markings, like with your first one, is that weapons moved around so much in India, war booty etc. and they could be very old before being captured (or whatever) and given inventory numbers in their 'new' arsenal. This could happen to an arm more than once, so making the trail very murky for us to follow.
I also believe the markings are much newer than the torador, but this only adds interest! It has a history, and finding out what we can is the intriguing part!

Richard.
Edited to add;

I note there appears never to have been a pan cover fitted. This appears quite common on Toradors, but (Only once I think) I saw a torador with a slip-on pan cover, that was attached to the gun by a chain or thong.
I wonder how common a slip-on cover would have been?

[Cerjak]

Dear Richard,

Thank you for your comment ,by the way the top torador in my pictures still have his pan cover.
best

Cerjak

[rickystl]

Hi Cerjak.
The dimensions, weight, and caliber of the barrel would seem to put this in wall gun territory. And the design of the barrel, especially the breech area shows an Indian made barrel. Many of the wall guns tended to have slightly shorter, but heavier barrels. And this one seems to be a good example.

Pan Covers: Yes, it appears some were made with covers, and others not. I don't understand why they would make a matchlock without one? Maybe something to do with the loading/firing procedure?
What I find curious is the pan covers were made of a very thin, almost flimsey piece of flat iron. Which probably accounts why so many covers are broke off and missing. You would think for all the work that went in to making the barrels that they would make the pan cover of a bit more robust material. Possibly they were made thin to have a somewhat flex to keep the pan cover still while loaded? But the actual lack of a pan cover is a mystery to me.
Anyway, thanks for sharing. Great looking long gun collection!!! I really like that Rasak!!
Rick.

[rickystl]

By the way, as long as we are on this subject............

There is a mark on the bottom breach area of my Torador barrel. Due to the location of this mark, I'm thinking it's possibly just a barrel maker's mark. Has anyone seen this mark? Maybe on a blade? Thanks.
Rick.

[Cerjak]

Originally Posted by rickystl

Hi Cerjak.
The dimensions, weight, and caliber of the barrel would seem to put this in wall gun territory. And the design of the barrel, especially the breech area shows an Indian made barrel. Many of the wall guns tended to have slightly shorter, but heavier barrels. And this one seems to be a good example.

Pan Covers: Yes, it appears some were made with covers, and others not. I don't understand why they would make a matchlock without one? Maybe something to do with the loading/firing procedure?
What I find curious is the pan covers were made of a very thin, almost flimsey piece of flat iron. Which probably accounts why so many covers are broke off and missing. You would think for all the work that went in to making the barrels that they would make the pan cover of a bit more robust material. Possibly they were made thin to have a somewhat flex to keep the pan cover still while loaded? But the actual lack of a pan cover is a mystery to me.
Anyway, thanks for sharing. Great looking long gun collection!!! I really like that Rasak!!
Rick.

Hi Rick
Thank you for your comment, by the way I have to say that it is always a pleasure to read your posts showing your amazing collection.
Best Cerjak