A ghotic basinet helmet or victorian exemple ?

Marcus den toom · 2nd September 2015, 03:13 PM

This is either a very nice replica or a 1470s orso helmet.

BerberDagger · 2nd September 2015, 03:15 PM

Hi Thanks for your comment ! What You mean orso helmet ?

BerberDagger · 2nd September 2015, 03:23 PM

Ah it is 2,6 kg And Size is 22x20x21

A Senefelder · 3rd September 2015, 12:33 AM

The weight seems right for 14th c. Can you possibly get a close up pic of the inside where one of the vervelles ( the little tubes that suspend the cord/wire that keeps the leather band to which the mail mantle is sewn in place ) is attached and perhaps at the peak of the helmet where the slight medial ridging is?

BerberDagger · 3rd September 2015, 10:15 AM

Hello Thanks for your input ! Here Others pics !!

kronckew · 3rd September 2015, 04:43 PM

looks very french*. if the tubes hold the leather binding of the maile skirt, what are the series of peripheral holes for? what kind of inner suspension would it have had?

*- per that most accurate and factual reference: The Holy Grail, by the noted arms expert m.python....

Marcus den toom · 3rd September 2015, 05:47 PM

From the "Krieg und Feuerwerk Buch 1411" (war and fireworks book from 1411).

There are multiple drawings with very similar shaped helmet types, so they might be quit alot older than i first thoughed. I think i saw them in some other manuscript as well, hope to find it.

The small holes alon the edge are most certainly the attachement holes for the mail head piece, which would have protected the forehead, the neck and the back portion. It would fall over the mail shirt and thus protect you from the head to just under the waist.
Those other tubes are new to me, i never saw anything like that. It is not my field though so i am sure a more competent person will adress that.

3rd September 2015, 10:15 AM	#5
BerberDagger Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 247	Hello Thanks for your input ! Here Others pics !! Attached Images

3rd September 2015, 04:43 PM	#6
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,224	looks very french. if the tubes hold the leather binding of the maile skirt, what are the series of peripheral holes for? what kind of inner suspension would it have had? - per that most accurate and factual reference: The Holy Grail, by the noted arms expert m.python.... Attached Images

3rd September 2015, 05:47 PM	#7
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 535	From the "Krieg und Feuerwerk Buch 1411" (war and fireworks book from 1411). There are multiple drawings with very similar shaped helmet types, so they might be quit alot older than i first thoughed. I think i saw them in some other manuscript as well, hope to find it. The small holes alon the edge are most certainly the attachement holes for the mail head piece, which would have protected the forehead, the neck and the back portion. It would fall over the mail shirt and thus protect you from the head to just under the waist. Those other tubes are new to me, i never saw anything like that. It is not my field though so i am sure a more competent person will adress that. Attached Images

2nd September 2015, 03:13 PM	#1
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 535	This is either a very nice replica or a 1470s orso helmet.

2nd September 2015, 03:15 PM	#2
BerberDagger Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 247	Hi Thanks for your comment ! What You mean orso helmet ?

2nd September 2015, 03:23 PM	#3
BerberDagger Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 247	Ah it is 2,6 kg And Size is 22x20x21

3rd September 2015, 12:33 AM	#4
A Senefelder Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 214	The weight seems right for 14th c. Can you possibly get a close up pic of the inside where one of the vervelles ( the little tubes that suspend the cord/wire that keeps the leather band to which the mail mantle is sewn in place ) is attached and perhaps at the peak of the helmet where the slight medial ridging is?