First Moro Kris (Straight Sulu piece)

David · 28th August 2015, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kronckew

the green on the asang is verdigris, very poisonous. on a small area like that you could use an old toothbrush (throw away/destroy afterwards) and a paste of baking soda & water to scrub it off, then rinse with warm water, dry lubricate. wash your hands well before eating.

If this is verdigris (i'm not sure how you determined that from these photos) it is indeed poisonous if ingested, but as long as you aren't licking your asang-asang regularly you are probably safe.

kronckew · 28th August 2015, 06:40 PM

yes, but it looks icky & better safe than sorry.

if it is verdigris, it can rub off on other stuff, eventually getting on something you do lick.

...and kissing your sword is an old traditional ritual during oath takings.

David · 28th August 2015, 07:40 PM

It's not that easy to ingest Wayne. Here is an interesting account of women working in the industry that produced the stuff back in the 19th century.
http://tinyurl.com/p4p3q3r
And remember that this Old Lady that sees countless tourists every year is virtually clothed in the stuff.

kronckew · 28th August 2015, 08:08 PM

it's not easy being green.... they've cleaned the insides a couple of times. it was painted the std. US green that all government facilities have been and are painted in since year dot. i climbed up into the head back in the late 60's, the torch was closed as it was unsafe when i was there.

she originally looked like this: but we digress, so we should now return you to the regularly scheduled program. p.s. the US Govt. denies that the triangular shaped UFO upper right is of extra terrestrial origin.

Sajen · 28th August 2015, 08:49 PM

I am still not confident that the front plates of the scabbard worked from tortoise shell, to my eyes it look like water buffalo horn. And the asang-asang could be from low grade silver with copper content, this stuff get also this verdrigis (oxidation). This can be polished away with every sort of metal polish. But like said, I could be wrong.

Robert · 28th August 2015, 09:35 PM

Joren, could the security setting on your computer be set too high and thus not allowing the attachments box to appear?

I agree with Detlef that the decorative covering is made from buffalo horn and mother of pearl and not from tortoiseshell. I would also clean off any of the green that is present just to be on the safe side.

Best,
Robert

Croccifixio · 29th August 2015, 12:12 AM

Robert, I think you're right.

Thank you for your advice everyone. I will see to what extent I can remove the rust and vertigris.

The mouth does not look like buffalo horn at all. I've looked ay it several times and it seems more and more like turtle shell. I'll try and grab better pics later of the fittings.

28th August 2015, 07:40 PM	#3
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,218	It's not that easy to ingest Wayne. Here is an interesting account of women working in the industry that produced the stuff back in the 19th century. http://tinyurl.com/p4p3q3r And remember that this Old Lady that sees countless tourists every year is virtually clothed in the stuff. Attached Images

28th August 2015, 08:08 PM	#4
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,224	it's not easy being green.... they've cleaned the insides a couple of times. it was painted the std. US green that all government facilities have been and are painted in since year dot. i climbed up into the head back in the late 60's, the torch was closed as it was unsafe when i was there. she originally looked like this: but we digress, so we should now return you to the regularly scheduled program. p.s. the US Govt. denies that the triangular shaped UFO upper right is of extra terrestrial origin. Attached Images

28th August 2015, 06:40 PM	#2
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,224	yes, but it looks icky & better safe than sorry. if it is verdigris, it can rub off on other stuff, eventually getting on something you do lick. ...and kissing your sword is an old traditional ritual during oath takings.

28th August 2015, 08:49 PM	#5
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,214	I am still not confident that the front plates of the scabbard worked from tortoise shell, to my eyes it look like water buffalo horn. And the asang-asang could be from low grade silver with copper content, this stuff get also this verdrigis (oxidation). This can be polished away with every sort of metal polish. But like said, I could be wrong.

28th August 2015, 09:35 PM	#6
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Joren, could the security setting on your computer be set too high and thus not allowing the attachments box to appear? I agree with Detlef that the decorative covering is made from buffalo horn and mother of pearl and not from tortoiseshell. I would also clean off any of the green that is present just to be on the safe side. Best, Robert

29th August 2015, 12:12 AM	#7
Croccifixio Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 33	Robert, I think you're right. Thank you for your advice everyone. I will see to what extent I can remove the rust and vertigris. The mouth does not look like buffalo horn at all. I've looked ay it several times and it seems more and more like turtle shell. I'll try and grab better pics later of the fittings.